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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (438685)	8/6/2003 12:02:32 AM
From: Vitas	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

It is quite humorous reading your numerous posts bemoaning the implosion in the dotcom industry. Apparently you convinced yourself that the massive growth in the industry the few years before it imploded would exponentially increase your entire lifetime. And that you were entitled to it. -lol-

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (438685)	8/6/2003 12:24:15 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 769667

Lizzie, Here's a BLS chart that the media never reports: bls.gov Comparing category U-5 to U-6, one wonders if the spinmeisters are at work by deviously excluding "discouraged workers" from the U-6 total... or is the absence of the term "d.w.s" from U-6 merely a trivial clerical error? At any rate, 10.5% is much closer to reality than is the "official unemployment rate" of 6.3% for July, 2003.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (438685)	8/6/2003 1:18:34 AM
From: Karen Lawrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

I only know for certain from published stats, it's close to 10% unemployment here. Since we have the highest unemployment, and you believe CA's is 20 percent, I guess we're at 21 percent. It becomes a vicious cycle when folks without jobs can't buy or use goods manufactured or sold by workers with jobs - soon to be without if their companies fail. The other trend going is to give workers fewer hours so employers don't have to pay any benefits. I hear Bush wants to get rid of overtime pay. I do know more people now than in 20 years are living without health care insurance because they can't pay that AND eat. It's not pretty here. Washington state is taking a beating. I've read other states including Florida, NY and Texas are fiscal disasters. My sis lives in CA and was carping about Gray Davis just now. I told her that at least part of the CA disaster (which every state but WY or something like that has going)was due to Enron's price gouging for energy they never delivered. I told her that Davis had begged Bush to put a cap on deregulation charges that were skyrocketing because of Enron. Bush wouldn't do anything. Cheney went into private talks with Ken Lay. I don't know if Davis is good or bad, but he's definitely not to blame for Bush and Cheney allowing CA to be raped by enron, which combined with the Bush fiscal ineptitude, the war and Davis' poor judgment has been disastrous. Enron imploded before it succeeded moving into Oregon and selling us phantom energy at inflated prices. Relatively speaking, we are as fiscally unfit as CA. Our deficit is - last I heard - 13 billion. And no one here is blaming Gray Davis for our mess.