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To: spiral3 who wrote (110358)8/7/2003 6:15:05 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
It's becoming quite clear we have Enron style management coming from the White House...Bush has NEVER run a business successfully and look how he is running our country and 'the occupation of Iraq.' No real honesty with the American people or the U.N. BEFORE we went into Iraq. Faulty intelligence used to justify an invasion and occupation we clearly WERE NOT prepared for. Most CEOs would be fired for this -- they wouldn't finish out their term. Look how we are viewed around the world right now. We antagonized SO MANY countries so we could rush into Iraq and deal with 'an imminent threat' that the NeoCONS said we could no longer contain. Wolfie & Co. love unilateral actions overseas...The Iraq War and occupation clearly demonstrates that. Our tax payers are footing the bill to the tune of over $1 Billion a week...Our soldiers continue to die every week in Iraq...And the NeoCONS (who have clearly brainwashed Bush) are forcing our entire country to learn a very expensive lesson -- that will take a HUGE sacrifice of blood and treasure. Is it worth it...? Was there a smarter, more multi-lateral way to deal with Saddam and WMDs...?

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He Saw It Coming
The former Bushie who knew Iraq would go to pot.
By Fred Kaplan
Updated Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 12:49 PM PT
slate.msn.com

<<...Finally, Dobbins makes a jab at the administration's aversion to letting other countries, and especially the United Nations, in on Iraqi reconstruction. As a general rule, he concludes, "Multilateral nation-building is more complex and time-consuming than undertaking unilateral efforts, but is also considerably less expensive" and "can produce more thoroughgoing transformations" in the democratic process. For Iraq in particular, he notes that "a multilateral effort, particularly one coordinated under UN auspices, may defuse popular resentment in Iraq and in the Arab world against U.S. 'imperialism' and make it easier to ensure regional reconciliation and stability."

It seems, then, that the real problem with American nation-building is that American officials don't give it much thought, don't read up on its history, don't appear even to recognize that there is a history from which lessons can be learned. Paul Wolfowitz has a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago. He's often portrayed as a deep thinker, the leader of a circle of national security intellectuals in and around the Bush administration. Their big mistake on postwar Iraq, it turns out, is that they failed to think...>>



To: spiral3 who wrote (110358)8/7/2003 9:40:45 AM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
He Saw It Coming
The former Bushie who knew Iraq would go to pot.
By Fred Kaplan


Thanks for posting this Kaplan article, sp3. There is no doubt the Bush administration was warned, and warned repeatedly, about their bad planning for post war Iraq. Dobbins was one of more than several.