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To: quehubo who wrote (111026)	8/11/2003 10:30:03 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Energy Independence from the ME oil for the USA? For the global economy?> Of course we're not an island economy. But it is foolish to continue our unnecessary and growing reliance on energy from unstable, uncontrollable parts of the world. As a longterm project, to solve this longterm problem, it should be a cornerstone of our national security. For political and military reasons, as much as economic reasons. We can: 1. develop ANWR and N. Canada oil/gas fields 2. push Alberta oil sands to the max 3. have the same incentives and subsidies for wind and solar, that we now have for nuclear and fossil fuels. 4. seriously tax all imported energy (and cut taxes elsewhere, to make it revenue-neutral). 5. tax inefficient electric motors of all kinds, and low-MPG cars (again, with offsetting tax cuts elsewhere). 6. Manhattan Project for true, permanent self-sufficiency, and keep funding it tell it yields results. Look at how much money it is costing us to conquer and garrison Iraq. That's the alternative. Tell me my proposals are expensive, and I'll reply that our present policy is even more expensive. For what we're spending now (4-5B$/month), you can buy a lot of R&D, a lot of incentives to deploy Energy Independence technologies. No quick-fix, but it's the only permanent fix.

To: quehubo who wrote (111026)	8/12/2003 10:27:48 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi quehubo; Re: "The President is well aware that the value of the oil in the ground around the Persian gulf is going to grow tremendously. Half way through Bush's next term the genius of this Administration will be appreciated by even more people than today." I didn't understand the implication here. It seems that you're stating something that smells like "how did our oil get under their land", but I'm sure that that's not what you intend. Could you explain more exactly? Before our invasion, Iraq was perfectly willing to pump oil and sell it to us. Now they're pumping considerably less. -- Carl