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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (111701)	8/15/2003 11:44:25 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<<Any successful policy has to be 90% political, and only 10% military. More force, more dead Iraqis, is not going to succeed, no matter how many we kill. >>> So when the looters loot, and carry off oil field equipment or electrical equipment , we just walk up the armed fellows and ask them to kindly put it back and not do it again and thats going to work? When they attack our un-armed camps with grenades( we are still in Iraq, I presume) we talk them them into leaving? <<< The present policy (area searches, regularly shooting into crowds of Iraqis, using artillery and helicopters in urban areas) uses massive amounts of poorly targetted firepower, and turns the civilian population against us.>>> Damn poor opinion of our military <<< We have to avoid what happened to the Soviets in Afghanistan, where the Islamists and nationalists allied against the foreign army of occupation>>> Warning, this may be another Viet Nam. <<<< The only way to keep the Islamists out of power in Iraq, is to ally with the nationalists, against the Islamists. And that means giving the Iraqi nationalists real power. They can't be our puppets. We have to create an Iraqi army thatn't be our puppets. We have to create an Iraqi army that answers to Iraqis, not Americans. We have to turn over the oil industry to Iraqis rather than Halliburton. >>> You are willing to try to sort out the Nationalists from the Islamists. There were only three types, Saddam supporters, nobodies, and dead people in those graves . An Iraqi Army is good, we are getting there <<< If we are unable or unwilling to do that, then, we should just cut our losses and get out ASAP>>> And Saddam digs his tanks, airplanes , missiles, and WMD trailer factories out of the dirt( or gets them back from Syria ) rallies the people, destroys the new government and gases the Kurds. But now hes reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally pissed, since we tore down his statues, messed up his Palaces, .took his cash and gold and captiured his lieutenants. He then marches South to Kuwait, since we have, I assume, left that area too, and left the ME to go back to its devious ways ...... It would make a wonderful movie, for the Arabs, not us Sig@60buckoil.com . .