To: one_less who wrote (72501 ) 8/17/2003 6:08:16 PM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 Some choose to wear it because they are convinced that it is a religious requirement, others choose to wear it because they feel it protects them from the lustful eyes of strange men. But it is a choice and that is an important consideration. Yes it is taken as a sign of modesty, yet as you know from before it as also taken as a sign of belonging to a certain mechanistic tribal/Pan Islamic mindset that has risen as a movement several times this last century ...and this is one of the core teachings of the "Q". All will be brought eventually to Allah . From the Young Turks at the turn of the last century , with the slaughter of the Armenians , to the more recent Iranian fundamenatlist uprisings . To be certain , there is a balance men are trying to find between the mechanized , technological and far too fast-paced progress of the west and all it's neurosis, and the more agrarian based , nomadic/trade ways of the Middle East, that does need to continue to modernize, imo ...But God threw oil into the mix ....or nature did. We witnessed in Kashmir the threatening of the Hindu ladies there ...and of the possibility of acid being thrown in their faces for not wearing that "gear" , but their own designated "bindi", which can be interpreted in all the same sacred & modest ways as the Hijab ....and even just for plain and simple beauty as well, which I am certain Allah will forgive. But I have no problem with modesty , but will remain ever vigilant to such totalitarian modes of thought concerning modes of dress and expressions that are threatened by such violence based on some rigid manufactured codes of the "all knowing" and their "books" of prose....more recently "interpreted" for the faithful. But such extreme violence as acid being thrown in these young ladies' faces ? That unerves me greatly... There is much that needs to be worked out and understood , once and for "all"...and not just in the Temples and Mosques quietly out of sight of prying eyes. And Haight Ashbury ? All the love-beads are mostly vanished into the sand. ;-)