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To: average joe who wrote (72504)	8/16/2003 7:35:18 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

The niqab, however, does elicit more of a response from strangers... One of her friends was asked if it was Halloween when she was working out at a fitness club. The stares and comments don't bother Smith, but she wishes people would take the time to talk to her before making uninformed judgments. Whoa. I'd sure like to have a conversation with a woman who would dress like that at a gym. I would pass out. It's bad enough on a treadmill or stairmaster in shorts and a t-shirt. They keep those places way too hot. Why, I was sweating today from the heat and humidity and I was working out in a pool, for heaven's sake. I'm hard pressed to come up with any explanation for her behavior more charitable than a loose screw. It would be interesting to hear what she has to say.

To: average joe who wrote (72504)	8/17/2003 5:50:37 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Yes Joe , the newly converted to Islam on these shores think of the Hijab as a right and a privilege ...something of a deeply felt expression of modesty and humility ,, and that heightened sense of self that comes with that marrying into a new faith, it's custom and love of it's poetry, prose , purpose & ideas, mixed with the zeal of a new follower of the faith . One can be only to happy for her life & her modesty etc . The article was telling us that this new practice was originated more recently than any would have thought before , as it swept thru the fashion consciousness of the Iranian lasses by the tens of 1000's back in the late 70's as a religious and political obeyance ...but not some older dated edict of dress from this middle eastern prophet himself . Interesting too , that the original cleric in Lebannon had the Catholic Nuns and their headgear in mind, when he thought of it . And it was an idea that apparently worked well to some degree keeping Arafat's thugs from doing more harm to those women . It was always a pleasure for me too, to see some Catholic nuns dressed for marriage to God walking down the street , though it is a more rare sight these days out west . I never had a problem with nuns wearing their habits , nor ever felt guilty for looking in their direction to watch them pass by , and greet them if possible . As for the newly converted in Canada or the US to Islam , I always note how pleasantly plump these women usually are, as well as their being extremely modest and well kept. I'm not sure that back in Iran in the 70's , that "modesty" was really the main reason that those thousands of women almost instantly began to adopt this new custom , though perhaps an inordinate view of the immodesty and excesses of the western influence perhaps might have been . But did that make them truely modest ? ;-)