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To: Neocon who wrote (446182)8/21/2003 2:32:54 PM
From: cnyndwllr  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769667
 
Neocon re: "the essential rightness of our cause."

I'd think that would require not only a laudable goal, but also a course of action that has a likelihood of achieving that goal.

I'm certain that YOUR goals for the U.S. presence in Iraq are "right," but our course of action seems poorly designed to achieve our stated goals. The question no one seems to be able to answer is how you "defeat" numbers of determined guerrillas with acess to arms and a willingness to die.

Hint, you have to use such brutal methods on foe and friend alike that the opposition is either killed off or suppressed by the innocent who tire of suffering reprisals. Stalin anyone?

Otherwise you need to get out "sooner rather than later," and leave the Iraqis to find their own solutions.



To: Neocon who wrote (446182)8/21/2003 3:06:36 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
We need to let people do their jobs, not to second guess them at every turn.

That's what they said about Vietnam or the rise of Hitler. How much evidence do you need before you acknowledge there is a problem? Just because you have a high threshold for pain does not make the current situation okay.

I am sure that those issues that have any merit will be aired in the press and the Congress, but so far, nothing very impressive has arisen to alter my confidence in the essential rightness of our cause.......

The best of intentions can mean nothing in the end. And this war was not started with the best of intentions. There is enough evidence to suggest that the reasons the administration cited as urgently prompting us to go to war against Saddam were not so urgent and were more a product of the White House's spin machine.

When people are mislead, its not surprising that things go awry. Now its up to us to pull the plug. And we're pulling it.