To: TimF who wrote (112950 ) 8/26/2003 7:51:52 PM From: marcos Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Your rulers have unilaterally invaded and occupied a sovereign nation, they have spurned the assistance and advise of your nation's natural allies in their haste, and in so doing they have taken on for US soldiers and US taxpayers full responsibility for every tiny detail of what happens in Iraq for a long long time Had your rulers possessed the presence of mind to go through that old-fashioned and admittedly lengthy diplomatic process in forming at least a quorum of democracies, our combined forces might well be parked on Hussein's borders still, yes, but they would be combined ... united with a common goal, sharing the cost in blood and treasure, and above all sharing the responsibility .... it's also possible that together we might well have put down the regime by now, germans and canucks and kiwis having persuaded the turks to let us in and join us on the northern border .... we'll never know now, what might have been, because your rulers acted dictatorially, they would not listen, in trying to bully and bribe us they would say only, yer with us or yer agin us This is not the way to make the trains run on time. This is the way to get the bloody tracks torn up. But don't listen to me, listen to this obviously bright individual - 'Let us reject the blinders of isolationism, just as we refuse the crown of empire. Let us not dominate others with our power -- or betray them with our indifference. And let us have an American foreign policy that reflects American character. The modesty of true strength. The humility of real greatness. ' Brilliant, eh, you get the feeling you could fight beside this person ... guess who it is - . . ... that's right, George Bush the freakin Second, lol - #reply-19246879 .... 'read my lips, no new sole-ownership wars' ..... sigh .... cheers ... [back later michael and chuck, only had a few minutes, cheers]