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To: epicure who wrote (113775)	9/3/2003 12:08:08 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"There is much to be said for stoicism in the face of an enemy who wants to see pain. imo " Then become a volunteer for duty at the next terror site. One was enough for me--i wont volunteer to be stoic and die. I want to kill the enemy who wants to kill me, not be stoic.

To: epicure who wrote (113775)	9/3/2003 12:09:51 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There is much to be said for stoicism in the face of an enemy who wants to see pain. Stoicism won't fill my gas tank or keep me warm in winter.

To: epicure who wrote (113775)	9/3/2003 1:03:50 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

We should quit now- meant quitting the rhetorical garbage about 9/11 changing everything. You really don't get it, do you? The changes brought by 9/11 are not imaginary. They are real and they are based on fact. The planning, the financing, the sophistication, and the methods of the attack brought home the fact that we are dealing not with an occasional madman setting off a bomb here and there--for which the proper response is restraint--but with a well-managed large-scale enterprise capable of successfully executing large-scale events. On our soil. Repeat: on our soil. If you don't understand why 9/11 changed everything, then there's little I can do.