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To: Tom Swift who wrote (118715)	9/3/2003 9:23:27 PM
From: Jim Bishop	Respond to of 150070

Thanks Tom.

To: Tom Swift who wrote (118715)	9/3/2003 10:26:10 PM
From: jmhollen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 150070

One of the best forms of stored energy for utility level applications is Pumped Water Storage. There is an excellent application of this up in the mountains west of Denver, CO. During the night, when demand is low, water is pumped uphill from a lake to a huge reservoir. During high demand periods in the daytime they release the water from the upper resevoir to generate "peaking power" by running the pump motors in reverse. There is some excellent geology in the Canadian wilderness north of Sault St. Marie over to NY where systems like that could be constructed in sizes to replace a lost power station or support a large grid section. They would not be fully utilized every day, so it would add new lakes for sporting activities. Reservoir levels could be designed so that only 1 to 2 feet of elevation change would meet the needs for a 24 hour period or more. Of course, we may have have to shoot a couple of whining, tree-hugging, spotted owl kissers to make it happen, but hydro power is as clean as it gets. And, wind energy could be used to help pump the water back to the upper reservoirs. I think it will be ultimately shown that the "..relaying.." and inter-company control on the portions of the NE grid that went down was a major part of the problem. So many turbines and plants tripped and went off line unnecessarily, rather than just going idle and then reclosing the distribution switchyard breakers to restablish power. John :-)

To: Tom Swift who wrote (118715)	9/3/2003 10:48:11 PM
From: jmhollen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 150070

In short, the solution to massive back-up capability will probably prove to be a civil engineering & electrical engineering project as opposed to some new high-tech mass-battery or fuel-cell technology. An electrically assisted Panama Canal vs. the Energizer Bunny, if you will. In the interim, it would certainly help to get the policy of "..distributed energy production.." moving along, using anaerobic digestion, wind power, mass solar energy fields and some more moderately sized Nukes to take the load off the big plants and higher voltage transmission lines. John :-)