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To: quehubo who wrote (113858)9/3/2003 11:31:01 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
One of my favorite sets of photos of my kids and many of the rest of my family were taken on the top of the World Trade Center over Columbus Day weekend more than ten and less than 15 years ago. I date them by the fact that Nick, now 15, was in a stroller. It was probably 13 years ago, 1990.

It was a beautiful October day, not unlike the beautiful September day that was September 11, 2001. Almost clear bright blue sky, mellow temperature and weather.

The lady that was with my brother did not marry him, but married someone else, and on 9/11/01, she and that child (no relation to me) walked, hand in hand, across the Brooklyn Bridge back home.

I only "knew" one person who died there, a very nice man who was a member of Silicon Investor, and worked for a bond company.

On the other hand, my husband, who works for the US Patent and Trademark Office, was working in Crystal City that day, about half a mile from the Pentagon.

Probably most of us here on the Atlantic Seaboard were within a degree or two of connection to those who died.

I'll probably post the photos of my kids and family all smiling on the top of the World Trade Center. If only to remind the rest of us that we should always appreciate what we have.



To: quehubo who wrote (113858)9/4/2003 3:06:13 AM
From: FaultLine  Respond to of 281500
 
10 years from now they will be denying the attacks ever occurred.

getting a little carried away are we...

--fl



To: quehubo who wrote (113858)9/4/2003 1:20:55 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
<...we deserved it (WTC) because of our fascist foreign policies.>

The War Party sees the cause-and-effect as linear:
A causes B, which causes C:
They hate us, so they attack us, so we attack them. No blame attaches to us, because all our violence is reactive and defensive.

The Peace Party sees the cause-and-effect as circular:
A causes B, B causes A, repeat endlessly:
We attack them, they attack us back, we attack them again, they attack us again. The blame cannot be heaped on any one side; it's a cycle of violence, perpetuated by both sides exclusively blaming the Other, and both sides habitually seeking violent solutions to problems.

The War Party rejects self-examination as defeatism, while the Peace Party thinks self-examination is necessary for the war to be won.



To: quehubo who wrote (113858)9/5/2003 2:38:18 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
10 years from now they will be denying the attacks ever occurred

Why so long? The French are denying the attack on the Pentagon already.