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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (73992)	9/5/2003 1:23:34 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I am sorry but you seem to have completely missed the point. I am not trying to take any of the burden off the man. And the "she asked for it" defense, is not a defense that I would support. Take a moment to consider that I am not advocating for that and reconsider my point of view. I have a daughter who is 17, the editor of a weekly newspaper, third year AP physics, straight 'A' student, active in sports. An apple of my eye. She takes complete responsibility for her sexuality in the way she dresses, talks to boys, comports her self, and the situations she allows her self to get into. I consider her an adult by most standards of maturity who is responsible for her own situations. She also made an uncoerced vow of chastity until married. If someone violently attacked her, and had sex with her, I would consider that a rape of the most brutal and heinous kind, and that she was a total victim. But if she decided to 'experiment' by getting drunk, drugged, and into an amorous encounter with a boy at a motel room that ended up in intercourse...I would have a different view of the outcome. If I found out that she passed out or was so drunk, she was incoherent and the boy had his way with her when her ability to continue to communicate a clear "no" had been impaired, I would still consider it a rape and hold the boy responsible. For the sake of argument let's assume the boy knew about her 'vow' and saw that as a challenge. I would not consider it on the same level as a violent attack. I would also have to hold my daughter responsible for making some bad decisions that contributed to the situation. Either situation would be crushing but do you see that there is a difference or do you consider women simply helpless victims in all circumstances, and that the boy in the motel room is on the same level of criminality as the thug in the alley with a knife who beats someone into submission?