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To: JohnM who wrote (114189)	9/8/2003 11:48:51 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

Reserve Tours Are Extended ______________________________ <<...The new order, requiring 12-month tours on the ground in Iraq or surrounding countries, means that many Guard and Army Reserve troops could have their original year-long mobilizations extended for anywhere from one to six months, Army officials said...>> from: washingtonpost.com

To: JohnM who wrote (114189)	9/9/2003 11:31:36 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hear is my nomination for a great moralist: Some thoughts from Vaclav Havel: And now, if you will allow me, I will at last try to gain some distance from myself and attempt to formulate three of my old certainties, or rather my old observations, that my time in the world of high politics has only confirmed: (1) If humanity is to survive and avoid new catastrophes, then the global political order has to be accompanied by a sincere and mutual respect among the various spheres of civilization, culture, nations, or continents, and by honest efforts on their part to seek and find the values or basic moral imperatives they have in common, and to build them into the foundations of their coexistence in this globally connected world. (2) Evil must be confronted in its womb and, if there is no other way to do it, then it has to be dealt with by the use of force. If the immensely sophisticated and expensive modern weaponry must be used, let it be used in a way that does not harm civilian populations. If this is not possible, then the billions spent on those weapons will be wasted. (3) If we examine all the problems facing the world today, be they economic, social, ecological, or general problems of civilization, we will always —whether we want to or not—come up against the problem of whether a course of action is proper or not, or whether, from the long-term planetary point of view, it is responsible. The moral order and its sources, human rights and the sources of people's right to human rights, human responsibility and its origins, human conscience and the penetrating view of that from which nothing can be hidden with a curtain of noble words—these are, in my deepest convictions and in all my experience, the most important political themes of our time. Dear friends, when I look around me and see so many famous people who appear to have descended from somewhere up there in the starry heavens, I cannot help feeling that at the end of my long fall from a fairy-tale world onto the hard earth, I suddenly find myself once more inside a fairy tale. There is perhaps only one difference: now I can appreciate this feeling more than I was able to in similar circumstances thirteen years ago. nybooks.com

To: JohnM who wrote (114189)	9/9/2003 11:38:26 AM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

One of our great moralists. What does this great moralist actually say about your country's interests regarding Iraq? As far as I can tell from reading the article, the only interest your country has there is in learning to accept defeat: "The United States must learn to lose this war...." It can't really be that dull. I'll read it again. Nope, it really doesn't say more than that. Imagine that! A country with only one interest! Schell is not even a third rate moralist. Jacob Snyder, who posts here, is many times better. I don't agree with him about most things but he's much better than Schell.