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To: JohnM who wrote (8245)	9/16/2003 4:35:09 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793800

After 94 Clinton obviously took into consideration the changed political dynamics. John, I think you are not taking into consideration the hatred built up in the Senate on Judges since 2000. The Dems are madder than hell that Bush got in, and are being vicious about the confirmations. That is the reason for all the hellraising.

To: JohnM who wrote (8245)	9/16/2003 11:25:29 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793800

It’s Kind Of Over In Texas: Texas Democrats threw in the towel and returned to Austin on Monday for a special session on redistricting. But while the legislative battle may be over, the political war rages on. Democratic state Sen. John Whitmire, who left his protesting colleagues in New Mexico on Sept. 2, arrived in the Capitol yesterday to jeering Democratic supporters, with one sign spelling out "Quitmire," the Dallas Morning News reports. Republican Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst announced that they had a quorum and could proceed with business. The Republicans then gaveled out and left to a chorus of boos. The Houston Chronicle reports that some in the crowd yelled at the Republicans, "Nazis. You’re acting like Nazis!" "Boy, that’s class," GOP state Sen. Florence Shapiro said, according to the Associated Press. The remaining ten Democrats were showered with cheers when they entered the Senate chamber shortly thereafter. Whitmire stood off to the side as his fellow Democrats stood in the middle of the chamber and rallied the crowd. After 25 minutes, the Senate microphone was cut off by Republican Sen. Chris Harris, according to the Morning News. "The mike may be off, but the voice of freedom will always stand true," said Democratic state Sen. Leticia Van de Putte. Whitmire didn’t support his colleagues’ rallying. "This is just dividing it more," he said. "We need to be reaching out to each other. That is not being done today." Dewhurst added, "The Senate floor is not a place to hold a political rally." Lawmakers will now move to pass the Republican congressional redistricting plan as the House planned to debate their version today and a Senate committee will take it up tomorrow. The plan was first postponed by a Democratic House walkout and had been killed twice before in the Senate, most recently with the boycott that began July 28 and ended Monday. MoveOn.org is planning a $400,000 Spanish TV and radio ad campaign attacking the "Bush/Republican power grab." The ads, narrated by actor Hector Elizondo, will run in 14 markets, including Albuquerque, Chicago, Miami, Denver, Austin and Washington. The ads claim that "in 2000 George Bush asked for our vote. He said Hispanics were important to him … but now George Bush and his friends in Texas want to take away the voting power of 1.4 million Hispanics." cbsnews.com

To: JohnM who wrote (8245)	9/17/2003 7:39:12 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793800

Finally! An article on the 9th Court's decision, that says it should be overturned, from a Yale Law Professor published in the "New York Times." Tough to slam the source and Author on this one, John. Try dealing with the facts. The Vote Must Go On By BRUCE ACKERMAN Bruce Ackerman, professor of law and political science at Yale, is editor of ``Bush v. Gore: The Question of Legitimacy.'' NEW HAVEN The federal appeals court order delaying the recall election in California cites the Supreme Court's decision in Bush v. Gore more than a dozen times. It is undeniable that California's recall election, which will use punch-card voting systems, has the potential to become another voting fiasco replete with hanging chads and changing standards. But this is not nearly enough to make it a legal rerun of Bush v. Gore. For starters, in 2000 the Supreme Court intervened only after the election. Its decision came too late to distort the actual conduct of the election campaign. In the run-up to November, George Bush and Al Gore shaped their political appeals to the voters in blissful ignorance of the crisis ahead. The court was thus able to focus on the question of equal protection in the recount without worrying about its decision's impact on crucial constitutional values of political speech. This time around, the candidates in California have already invested heavily in a short campaign. Their competing strategies have been designed to reach a climax on the Oct. 7 election date. If they had known they would have to compete until March, they would have conducted their campaigns very differently. By suddenly changing the finish line, the three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit disrupts the core First Amendment freedom to present a coherent political message to voters. Worse yet, the decision disrupts the First Amendment interests of the millions of Californians who have participated in the recall effort. State law promised them a quick election if they completed their petitions by an August deadline. Now their effort will have to compete in March with the candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination. A campaign focused on California issues may be swamped by national politics. All of these concerns make the present case far more complex than Bush v. Gore. Three years ago, the Supreme Court had the luxury of focusing narrowly on the vote count and the extent to which it violated principles of equal protection. In contrast, the appeals court was also obliged to place the First Amendment freedoms of the candidates and the public into the balance. Unfortunately, the court's opinion doesn't even recognize the existence of this constitutional problem. The decision departs from Bush v. Gore in a second way. When the Supreme Court stopped the recount, Florida's time was running out. Continuing the recount increased the risk that its electoral vote would be challenged in Washington when Congress counted all the electoral ballots. Whatever its other merits or demerits, the court's intervention protected the right of each state to make its voice heard in selecting the president. In contrast, the present decision attacks states' rights at their very core. The short election period is central to California's political integrity. Its constitution places a limit of six months on this extraordinary process. By extending the election beyond this period, the court condemns the state to an extended period of political paralysis. While California's punch cards are obsolete, they have worked well enough for decades. And while there is a chance of fiasco this time, there is a certainty of a widespread disruption of precious First Amendment freedoms. Instead of delaying the vote, the court should have focused on more concrete problems. For example, it could have ordered the state to open more polling places in heavily minority areas. There is one consolation. The panel stayed its decision for a week to allow for reconsideration, either by the full Ninth Circuit or the Supreme Court. In either case, the court should make it plain that Bush v. Gore is not an invitation for an endless series of judicial interventions into the very heart of our political life. nytimes.com