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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (75038)	9/18/2003 5:17:10 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"I have little sympathy with somebody who wants to pay no price at all for refusing to do something they think is wrong." You'll have to figure that one out for your self I guess. Personally, I think it is ok to not want to pay a price for refusing to do something that I think is wrong. I am willing to pay the price but that is different than you thinking I should.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (75038)	9/18/2003 5:21:09 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Having finally sorted out just what he's talking about, I think, and having considered the matter further, I can get my head around the notion of freedom of conscience in that I don't think he can be forced to massage someone his conscience won't permit him to massage. Actually I thought and said that at the top of the discussion but I wasn't attributing it directly to freedom of conscience. But if folks want to subsume it under that, I can dig it. No one can make him massage anyone he thinks inappropriate. I'm a long way from being persuaded, though, that just because he believes something and his conscience tells him something, that he can avoid laws, regulations, and social norms without penalty. I'm still digging for some insight that might get me there.