China Sets to Put Brakes on Auto Industry
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posted: 09/10/2003 09:17 PM
Brake on Auto Industry
1. Auto industry will doom China's economy and environment.
2. Proof: America is a land of cars, a doomed civilization reaching a point of no return - waste of land and water resources, power shortage, environmental pollutions, noise, accidents and fatalities, traffic jams and long commute time, dependence on oil and gasoline, and hostage to OPEC.
3. China must not follow America into the bottomless pit!
4. China needs to restrict private owership of cars - the new kind of opium the West is selling to dupe simple-minded Chinese.
5. China needs to build large cities in concentric zones with huge apartment complexes conveniently connected to mass transit.
6. China needs to build mass transit for 80% of its city residents to increase productivity and efficiency.
Willie Wong
Chinese For China
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posted: 09/14/2003 09:00 PM
Surely it is more important for China to develop all forms of public transport than the private automobile. Private cars deplete valuable petroleum resources and pollute the environment
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posted: 09/15/2003 08:39 PM
Let the demand and supply take care of auto industry. China should down size the government and give more voice to consumer.
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posted: 09/16/2003 12:20 AM
Willie Ding Dong China is doing nothing of the kind.Pollution is increasing rapidly money is more important in China.Cars without pollution controls are everywhere you can barely breath.China is a dirty nation India same story.
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posted: 09/16/2003 10:26 AM
Bus drivers like Willie Wong would lose their jobs if private car ownership is encouraged. Self interest governs every individual's thoughts!!
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posted: 09/16/2003 11:12 AM
Last year China produced a little over one million passenger cars, this year 2003 is on target to almost double the amount to about 1.8 million cars. Of course, such numbers in a country of 1.3 billion is still relatively small, on per capita basis. But huge increase like this is highly unhealthy. QC is bad, road traffic bad, accidents rise, parking space shortage, gasoline shortage, car insurance costs, etc. are all problems need proper attention first.
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posted: 09/16/2003 10:08 PM
The car industry is the fasted growing sector in China. It will provide millions with a job. Not only in car assembly but also in the supply industry, not to mention the repair industry, insurance sector and so on.
More cars will need more streets, giving even more jobs to people with low education. China is not ready yet for beautiful subways like Hong Kong. They are too efficient and put many people out of work.
And who will buy then all the things, if Chinese people have no jobs?
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posted: 09/17/2003 01:17 AM
I have often wondered about that. Why do companies strive to be efficient? If they are not, competition kills them. But what if the inherent cost advantages (e.g., the huge labor cost advantage) are such that some inefficiencies can be tolerated without losing substantial business, should the focus be shifted away from pure efficiencies and productivity, and to address desired social results as least as part of the goal of running the business enterprise?
But that is more worthy of a philosophical rumination, and not suitable for the profit-is-number-ONE captains of industry.
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posted: 09/17/2003 01:20 AM
On NPR today there was a Chinese commentator (actually speaking in Mandarin) from Beijing that lamented that China's air pollution laws are 20 years behind, and thus the foreign auto makers are able to get away with murder, by building cheap, dirty cars, and boast of profit margins 3 times that in their host countries (in this case Peugeot, I think).
With China projected to have 130 million vehicles by 2020, whatever gains made in the last few decades in cleaning up the environment can be at risk, unless China puts in VERY stringent rules, and encourage clean cars.
It is time to leapfrog. How about an electric automobile only initiative for the major cities? At least for all taxies?
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posted: 09/17/2003 05:43 PM
All the major foreign auto makers are either rushing to China or are already enjoying fantastic boom there. They are making tons of profits, with lots of components shipped in from abroad, using discontinued models, loose control of air pollution prevention measures, inexpensive yet increasingly efficient labor. Hyundai Sonata, for example, is selling in the US with an extraordinary 10-year warranty or first 100,000 miles at the same price as selling in China but only with one year warranty or first 10,000 miles. The others are also ripping off in China with a big profit margin. Chinese car buyers are treated like suckers.
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posted: 09/17/2003 09:47 PM
"How about an electric automobile only initiative for the major cities? At least for all taxies?"
China should position herself in North America by taking over some automotive related industries in USA and Canada. Most of those industries - alternative fuel system, electric/solar car.... are down and cheap due to bad, incompetent managements that create sulplus in highly qualified and experienced engineers and technicians. It is a great opportunity, don't miss it.
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posted: 09/20/2003 04:23 AM
Hey Hot Rod, You pecked:
"Hyundai Sonata, for example, is selling in the US with an extraordinary 10-year warranty or first 100,000 miles at the same price as selling in China but only with one year warranty or first 10,000 miles. The others are also ripping off in China with a big profit margin. Chinese car buyers are treated like suckers."
The chinese roads (if that's what you call them,, cowpaths elsewhere) take a much heavier toll on machines in China coupled with the inept care given by those unfamiliar or unable to afford proper care ot their automotive investments.. Corporations act in their own interests,, as do individuals.
The warrantees will reflect the differences.
BTW,, where are all the chinese the racetracks?
Has anything been built in china that could qualify for a pole position on a non-restrictor track yet?
hey pd,, there must be more than 6 people logged onto the board, it's freaking out again.
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