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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (75317)9/22/2003 4:32:20 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
"...rather than arguing the points being made.

Points? the points that I lash are "beside the point."

I have argued the nature of the business which is wrought with an unusually high incidence of harmful episodes...you don't seem to be convinced that this is any different than ... a man shopping in the market and seeing the produce girl washing carrots (solon's analogy) ... come on karen, do you really expect me to see this as credible on your part... if so, I am at a total loss. You either see me as very gullible or, you yourself are clueless about the real world. What do you expect?

"I also acknowledged that paternalism contains elements of bigotry, although not intentional nor ugly."

Excuse me. You extrapolated by assumption this "paternalism" from outside the bounds of the argument to qualify your attitude toward mojo. You described it as the worst kind of discrimination. You are on record as hating discrimination more than anything you can imagine or something like that. You declined to respond regarding Myrna. Is she paternalistic too? ...didn't bolter your hatred I guess, so better to dismiss it.

You have seen the venum laden posts ch has been responsible for and have been bolstering him on the side. I seem to remember that part of your persona from way back but thought it was a thing of the past. At least in the past when he would butter you up, to implicate you, he got a little slap on the wrist. ...lacking the slap, you are implicated.

You began by simply dismissing all information that suggested risk of harm. When I posted information that suggested there is harm, that it is serious and of a particularly devastating nature, not relegated to isolated incidents but as many as 70% of therapist have been involved, increasing at alarming rates .... I am called a liar, by you .... Is the problem as serious, pervasive, and harmful as the information I posted suggests? I don't know. Does that make the information useless? Especially if mojo believes the same things the author of that article believes... You seem to have an issue of your own to have responded so strongly...what's up with that?



To: Lane3 who wrote (75317)9/22/2003 5:06:47 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
"The only less than complimentary things I ever said about Mojo were that...

1. his attitude about people's inability to distinguish a sexual from a therapeutic situation was either sheltered or juvenile;


When did he say that people don't have this ability? Or when did I say that he views it that way? Your blanket dismissal of the devestating harm that is broadly documented and reported, definitely suggests that you are sheltering "yourself."

"2. he's just another guy looking to run his affairs by his own lights and there's nothing particularly noble about that, as claims his spokesman, you; and

I consider it a good quality, definitely not in and of itself a bad thing.

" 3. that he is self-absorbed and unrealistic if he expects the mainstream to go to extraordinary lengths to pay homage to his differing standard."

He expects no such thing. He is bringing benefit to his clients and harming none. He is happy to continue in his current unfettered state but if you want to make a federal case of it he is willing to take the challenge without a blink. I have clarified that for you numerous times. It is YOU who WANTS HIM to change rather than cause YOU any discomfort.