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Politics : Stockman Scott's Political Debate Porch -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: elpolvo who wrote (28859)	9/26/2003 8:25:34 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

Debate Commentary from Josh Marshall talkingpointsmemo.com (September 25th, 2003 -- 10:35 PM EDT // link) Okay, a few random thoughts on the debate, just finishing up now in the 9 PM replay. My main reaction is that there are just too many candidates to follow any of them through the debate, any real themes, how they're doing, anything like that. The candidates who stood out to me were Clark, Dean and Kerry (and the order there is intentionally alphabetical). I thought each had a good debate. Clark had some good moments, his opening statement was very good. Mainly he just didn't make any mistakes and, to my mind, showed a lot of energy. As with the rest, there just wasn't enough time hearing him talk. The same for Dean. I can see why his supporters like him. He was strong, with those moments of sparkle-in-the-eye candor and wit. At the same time, he was on the receiving end of a lot of attacks, which is the sign of a front runner, but also took some of the edge off his game. Kerry was sharp, strong and smart. Many of the other candidates gave good answers and came off well -- Lieberman, Graham, etc. (Lieberman had one extremely funny moment.) But on balance the others just felt irrelevant to the race. That may be unfair to Gephardt who was definitely all over the debate. But on balance that was my impression. -- Josh Marshall

To: elpolvo who wrote (28859)	9/27/2003 12:51:36 AM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

The intense fire focused on former Gov. Howard Dean in Thursday's debate reflected what one Democratic strategist described as "the real race" at the moment: the struggle for primacy in Iowa and New Hampshire. While Gen. Wesley K. Clark's entry into the Democratic presidential race transfixed the pundits and transformed the national polls, the other leading candidates are still primarily focused on stopping Dr. Dean in Iowa and New Hampshire, where he surged to the front of the pack this summer, strategists said. and more from nytimes.com lurqer