To: rrufff who wrote (3158 ) 9/29/2003 2:52:28 PM From: MSI Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039 If you wanted to finagle the millions and billions, you got in when the money was lent. The embezzlers are Saddam and crew although I'm sure there were some profiteers among the French and Russians. Correct. Many billions. It's easy to calculate the range by simply taking adding up all funds pouring in, and assuming EVERYTHING is theft that can't be verified as actually spent, by looking at what is actually built, bought and done. You notice the Bushies love to make this calculation. And for good reason -- it's exactly what they dream about getting their hands on. The way for you to make billions on the upcoming fraud (I'll personallize it so you can get excited, here goes) -- 1) Authorize US funds for "rebuilding Iraq" after destroying infrastructure, and make sure you claim most things were worse than they really were to crank the bill up as much as possible. Skim 60% of the $200 billion by quadrupling (and sometimes 10x) the cost of everything, paying locals $20/month and billing them at $20/hr or much more. Route the skim through contractors who then contribute to billions to offshore partnerships (i.e., Carlyle, Halliburton etc etc) and political campaign workers, to the tune of several hundred million. 2) Authorize "negotiation" for $400 billion in debt ($200b in outstanding plus $200 in upcoming US expenditures to be "paid back"). Be the sole negotiator, with no effective auditing of the books. Establish a portion of the $4 trillion in proven oil reserves as payment reserve for this debt. This establishes you as control of all oil revenues. Now, even as an unsophisticated layman, do you think if no one can get to the books you could make a few bucks? Cash coming in over the next 10 years will be more like $400b in US and international funds, plus $400b in oil revenues, combined with World Bank and other loans of $200b add up to $1 trillion cash coming in, not to the mention selling off more portions of the $4 trillion proven reserves, and selling exploratory leases. Draconian price controls and slave wages mean a wonderful economy for business owners and those who control the gov't kleptocracy. Now, cash going out? Those funds are (a)negotiated down to 25% or zero and (b)further skimmed in private deals among creditors, plus (c)previously mentioned slave wages of $20/mo. for locals until they become self-funding from local kleptocratically-owned businesses. Essentially, the neocons in control of our country have put themselves in the position of taking control of $4 trillion in oil assets plus 20 million wage slaves. Due to the secrecy and fraud this is all under their control. It's a Disneyland of larceny. It's the perfect storm, with trillions on the line, and opportunities to get away with it, a lot of extremely smart people are salivating to get paid off to look the other way. The only thing that will break this cycle is disclosure. It's only going to happen with whistleblowers willing to withstand the vicious retaliation, like Wilson.