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To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (29090)	9/29/2003 11:38:24 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Wrong. Pinhead drivel. Hahaha. This can't be true, for Shrub is an honorable man. You guys and gals just keep forgetting that Shrub is an honorable man. This is just more liberal tripe, because they know that SHRUB IS AN HONORABLE MAN, and he has restored honor and dignity to the WH, and they can't stand it. Marcus Antonicus Ratticus. BTW, loved that line in the Toronto paper, about Bush being the biggest UN embarrassment since Nicky the Kay pounded his shoe. The RWE are gonna get all hyper and xenohydrophobic again, 'cuz they don't understand that this is why the world isn't leaping at the chance to help us. I hope a new prez can get up there and say something like "OK, we screwed up, help us please", and make it all alright again 'cuz we are getting in pretty deep right now; about at the point where we are forgetting we want to drain the swamp, cuz we are up to our asses in alligators. I hate gators; chomp-- Rat@1smallbiteforgators.com

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (29090)	9/29/2003 2:47:15 PM
From: Rick Faurot	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Democrats Want Independent Probe of CIA Leak Mon September 29, 2003 02:22 PM ET By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats called on Monday for an independent review of charges the White House deliberately exposed an undercover CIA officer, saying a highly political Justice Department could not conduct a credible probe. Several of the 10 Democrats vying for the right to challenge President Bush in 2004 said the public identification of the wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson as a CIA officer was a sign the administration was playing politics with national security. Attorney General John Ashcroft, they said, had a conflict of interest in any investigation of high-level White House officials. "This administration has played politics with national security for a long time, but this is going too far," retired Gen. Wesley Clark told Reuters, suggesting an independent commission look into the allegations. "I don't think, in this administration, the Department of Justice will have the credibility it needs to reassure American allies abroad, and people around the world, about this matter," he said, adding an impartial probe could be headed by someone like former Sen. Sam Nunn or former chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili. The Washington Post reported on Sunday that two top White House officials called at least six journalists and revealed the occupation of Wilson's wife -- apparently in retaliation for Wilson's 2002 report that it was highly doubtful that Iraq was trying to obtain uranium from Niger. The CIA has asked the Justice Department to investigate the matter. The disclosure could be a crime, and Democrats said it could have jeopardized the lives of various sources and contacts for the exposed officer. LIEBERMAN SEES "MORAL OUTRAGE" Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman said it was "a moral outrage" that White House officials might have leaked the information for political revenge. "It would be scandalous if such acts were a reaction to the public's conclusion that the president has used 16 misleading words in his State of the Union address last January," he said. But White House spokesman Scott McClellan rebuffed calls for an independent probe, saying the Justice Department was the most appropriate place for the review "at this point" and the White House would fully cooperate. He flatly denied that Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove, was behind the leak. Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean said keeping Ashcroft out of the probe would help ensure a thorough investigation free from political pressure, and suggested the review be carried out by the independent Justice Department inspector general. "We need to determine the facts in the highly sensitive matter free from any political taint," Dean said. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry said there were too many serious questions involved to risk the political intervention of Ashcroft, a frequent target of criticism from Democrats for what they say are his attacks on civil liberties and overtly political agenda. "The track record of John Ashcroft and this Justice Department do not adequately assure Americans that legitimate questions will be answered fully without any political bias," said Kerry, who called for the appointment of a special counsel. The independent counsel statute that led to probes such as the Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky cases under President Bill Clinton has expired, but the attorney general can appoint a special counsel to investigate the president and other key government officials.

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (29090)	9/29/2003 7:27:50 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 89467

...."What's the fuss about?" asked Novak.... "There is no great crime involved here... The fuss is made on this because it involves (Republican President George W.) Bush," he said on CNN. "I do not reveal confidential sources.".... ...."Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this," Novak said, saying the information was disclosed to him while he was interviewing a senior Bush administration official.... ....Novak said the administration official told him in July that Wilson's trip was "inspired by his wife," and that the CIA confirmed her "involvement in the mission for her husband." "They asked me not to use her name, but never indicated it would endanger her or anybody else," he said, adding that a source at the CIA told him Plame was "an analyst -- not a covert operator and not in charge of undercover operators." asia.reuters.com ....."It is believed Karl Rove broke the cover of Wilson's wife in an act of revenge".... Hmmmmm..... something doesn't jive here.....