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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (76052)10/1/2003 6:10:25 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
"The secondary point of my hypothetical, the one about how one deals with attacks on one's hypotheticals, is still hanging out there, unfortunately."

That one is yours. It is also your presumption that "your side" was dealt with wrongly. That is your perspective. I see it as whining and squirming over your situation. You wanted mojo to accommodate people who are anti-mojoists, but the only way you could find to explain it was for him to stop being such a mojo. I suspect this "dealing with" thing is similar ... karen wants some warm cocoa... May I pour?



To: Lane3 who wrote (76052)10/1/2003 6:26:43 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
"I explicitly said, more than once, that they were the factors I considered key."

We addressed the items you considered key, and pointed out how they were not similar enough to be considered common to both scenarios. You still insist that they were. Well, if you want to ignore the reasoning ... I guess you can keep on insisting that they were. Not much point in going back over it.



To: Lane3 who wrote (76052)10/1/2003 6:30:42 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 82486
 
It seems to me that attacking another's hypotheticals is fraught with serious risks, judging by the increasingly personal and virulent comments about you I am reading!

Perhaps, as can happen sometimes in research or writing, there is some form of identification going on here where the creator of the hypothetical becomes his character to such an extent that he no longer can view alternatives except through the prism of his own creation. Objectivity is lost and personal attack is perceived as being against the self, and no longer against the idea.

I personally feel very defensive about dear Auntie K and suggested that almost everyone else bore the blame for her situation. I was just amazed when you finally described her as self-absorbed. I have friends who overdress, some who underdress, I have a female relative who refuses to wear a skirt period. Life is full of live and let live scenarios, and it seems we have one here at Sharks. Perhaps it is time to let Mojo the Hypothetical Who Became A Real Man practice in either puerile or noble peace.

When things reach the level of attacking someone's personal life, I think they have gone way way too far. Mojo is fair game as an alleged hypothetical presented for just such a discussion. Your life is not.