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To: Alighieri who wrote (175872)	10/3/2003 10:10:34 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571200

The most offensive festering issue, the Palestinian/Israeli conflict, receives no attention at all from the administration. The Palestinians don't want peace and they have proved it. They could have had progress and instead chose Arafat. Until this changes and the Palestinians decide they want peace, there is little we can do other than what Bush is doing -- assist nearby countries in getting their own freedom. We should be more supportive of Israel and Israel needs to find a way to really hit these people where it hurts. Unfortunately, the Palestinians only understand extreme violence. They could have had peace and they chose violence, so I say give it to 'em. I know. I'm a barbarian.

To: Alighieri who wrote (175872)	10/9/2003 12:11:37 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571200

Al, So much speculation, so little evidence. That's what I said it was, my speculation. Ameliorating (notice that I don't use the word "solving") this single issue provides far more payback than the Iraq war ever will, if I even stretch my imagination and allow that it could have a slight probability of a beneficial effect in the ME. I am all for ameliorating the Palestinian problem, but many different approaches were tried and failed. Remember that Turkey is a Muslim country in the ME, a Nato member, a democracy for a number of years, and I ask you, what effect has that had on other countries in the reqion? Turkey is not an Arab country, it think of itself that it is as much a European country as a ME country. Iraq is (majority) Arab country. The second issue is the Muslim fundamentalist culture of hatred of anything western. THe war in Iraq actually feeds this hatred and plays into its belief that a violent war of culture is required to keep the west from contaminating the ME with it's "moral corruption". I am not sure it is Muslims are monolithic. Some are more "fundamentalist" in their belief, others are pragmatic. Of the fundamentalist, only some are so to the point of being militant anti-western, willing to act on it, indoctrinating the young in that way of thinking. There is nothing the US can do to satisfy these people. It is not the Bush administration that is spreading pornography to ME, or just regular Hollywood stuff. Their ordinary people want it, the clerics are trying to prevent their people from being influence by it, but it is easier to attack "America" where the stuff gets produced rather than their own people, who want to obtain it. As far as the militants, they will just have to be confronted. They can never be appeased. Joe