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To: tejek who wrote (175952)10/3/2003 8:51:47 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579883
 
One link is saying something like "McNabb has been overrated so Rush is right". I think McNabb has indeed been overrated but I'm not sure that the reason is race. If race is a reason it is not the only one IMO.

The only way the 2nd part really address AA is when Karen De Coster argues against what the NFL did to the Lions when they didn't interview black coaches. I agree with her. The Lions knew who they wanted to hire from the beginning. Not "someone white" but a specific individual. But they tried to comply with the NFL's rules anyway. But no black coaching candidate would go for the interview since they knew the Lions had already made up their minds. So why punish the Lions? What did they do wrong?

I have been in school and working since AA has been in place and not once did I ever believe my upward movement was stopped/slowed by AA

That's like a white bigot who supports of Jim Crow laws and segregation pointing to a black man who has achieved great things and saying that his upward movement was not stopped by racism. He might be telling the truth. A lot of people can overcome disadvantages. You are even more likely to be telling the truth. Maybe you where not at the margin but where far above the cut, so when you where given a disadvantage you still didn't have to worry. But a lot of people are at the margin. They are the ones who really feel the disadvantage.

But what I did see were people, who were not competent and/or did not put in the necessary effort, blaming AA for every lost opportunity or advancement.

I believe that too. People who face unjust racial discrimination, either Jim Crow, or AA, are far less likely to have very successfully lives if they blame all of their failures on the discrimination and use it as an excuse not to put in the effort. Of course people should put the effort in anyway, but that doesn't make imposing a racially biased selection process a good thing.

I refuse to fall to their level.

Good for you, and I am not saying that sarcastically. When people are treated unfairly there is often a temptation to blame failures on the unfair treatment. Its a good thing that you either do not feel that temptation, or manager to overcome it.

Tim