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To: KLP who wrote (116282)	10/6/2003 6:54:04 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

> Personally, I'm not willing to just be the stationary target any longer. There are many levels of proactive solutions. They range from putting pressure on suppliers to improving our own intelligence to covert actions (as in the assassination of the (German?) scientist who was building the super gun for Saddam) to precise limited overt actions (as in the Israeli bombing of Osirac reactors). We were very active against the soviet union and I don't recall us bombing them. One does not need to club people to death. Just stay ahead of the game and in time either they change or they die. > Frankly, Sun Tzu, I'm finally tired. Tired of giving so much to those who don't appreciate the gift, and then blaming America because it tried to help. Then stop "helping". Seems simple enough to me. > If America hadn't helped Europe in WWII, most probably Europe would be living entirely differently than today. And many of the people most probably wouldn't have been alive at all, as Hitler was on his way to killing millions more. Oh please! This self righteous attitude is one of the things that rubs the world the wrong way. Everything we do is for our own interests. In acting this way we are no more evil than anyone else. But neither does the world owe us anything for doing what was in our interest to begin with. > And to answer your last question, specifically what people/countries are you referring to? The list is too long so take your pick. We support[ed?] the MKO against Iran, the Contras against Nicaragua, a ton of different groups in Africa, hey one could even make the case that we supported IRA in one of form or the other. But I am not going to debate any single case in the above list. Quite simply, do you think that our support of armed groups who against some government gives that government the moral right to bomb the US?