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To: Neocon who wrote (76746)	10/7/2003 1:30:01 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

OK we are on the same page...I never said it would be easy. Karen proposed some sort of legal venue that would give the mojo's a licencing exemption. The exemption would allow them to operate according to conscience, and not be subject to discrimination laws. My position is that it is because this particular format does not qualify on the basis that discrimination laws are founded and supported. I argued that point earlier ... don't know if you saw it. The need to qualify the issue of conscience, toward exemption, that does not promote or contribute to harmful descrimination, was also discussed since any old bigot could claim freedom of conscience otherwise.

To: Neocon who wrote (76746)	10/7/2003 1:42:35 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

"If the person were raised in a very conservative environment, and showed a propensity to conform his acts to his upbringing, despite the rejection of the dogmatic core, than that would, indeed, suggest the legitimate operation of conscience....... " Right. That was the gist of what I am pushing. There could be other avenues to legitimately qualify such conscience as well... like maybe some late life experience that transforms the values system but that would be harder to validate...

To: Neocon who wrote (76746)	10/7/2003 6:45:12 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

The main thing is that there must be a way of discriminating between real conscientiousness, and mere prejudice or stubborness of sentiment. If the person were raised in a very conservative environment, and showed a propensity to conform his acts to his upbringing, despite the rejection of the dogmatic core, than that would, indeed, suggest the legitimate operation of conscience...... Can not a person form sold principles of conscience later in life, and ones that are not those of some religious sect? Tim