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To: Bilow who wrote (116335)	10/7/2003 5:51:18 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

try to make a case for staying in Iraq. Carl, There is no case unless you consider the following important: 1. Liberating the oppressed. 2. Self-defense. All significant change is painful. The more pain...the greater the change. I have argued in past posts that some Iraqis may not yet have suffered sufficiently to crave change. That does not apply to northern and southern Iraqi rural areas and towns. Those folks suffered plenty and are cooperating to get changes in place. Yesterday's demonstrators were members of the former intelligence service...It is far more likely they are used to inflicting pain than receiving it. They may still need to experience harsh pain to want change. Yet the present situation confronting our soldiers does not seem to be of Iraqi origin. The current fight in Iraq (according to my sources) does not include but a few Iraqis...The rest are imported foreigners. uw