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To: Ilaine who wrote (116466)10/9/2003 2:11:08 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I have heard that - only the "female" position is considered shameful.

Which makes me wonder about real HIV rates in Arab countries. The wives and daughters may be more chaste on the whole, but there are whores and homosexual relations aplenty. Perhaps the rates are just under-reported?



To: Ilaine who wrote (116466)10/22/2003 2:25:12 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
> Cultural attitudes towards homosexuality vary quite widely from culture to culture.

Close but not quite. I remember a case study of homosexuality around the globe. One of the cultures they looked at was an Amazon (I think) tribe that was particularly reputed to be fierce warriors and very "manly" in all respects. This emphasis on masculinity meant that most contacts with women were thought to somehow diminish the man. As a result the tribe lived in almost two separate villages, to achieve total segregation. Fathers would take their boys away from their mothers at a very early age (2 years old I think). The boys were raised in the men's village so as to learn the ways of the warriors and not be weakened by women. Among other things this meant that the fathers would "milk" their boys in ways that would certainly get them into pedophile prison for life over here.

My over all impression of the study was that it is not so much that attitudes towards homosexuality varies around the world, but that the same acts do not necessarily indicate homosexuality.

In the case of the middle east, I did not see any rampant homosexuality, but there was plenty of references to it in the popular insults. What I gathered mostly was that it was defined more by the active/passive roles than by the actual sex of the two people.

Beyond this I have not studied the topic enough to comment.

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