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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (12045)	10/13/2003 8:32:03 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793625

The complication of dirty tricks doesn't obviate my distaste for Arnold's behavior. And it shouldn't yours, either. (Lest you think I have an axe to grind re Arnold, actually, best I can tell, his political viewpoint is much more like mine than most. Like me, he doesn't fit neatly into those liberal/conservative pigeon holes.)

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (12045)	10/13/2003 8:33:08 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793625

Sabato Fears Trend Set by 'LA Times' Series Calls Schwarzenegger Allegations 'Piling On' By Joe Strupp OCTOBER 13, 2003 NEW YORK -- The Los Angeles Times' decision to publish several articles revealing sexual harassment allegations against Arnold Schwarzenegger just days before the California recall election will make it easier for other newspapers to report potentially damaging information closer to Election Day, predicted Larry Sabato, a leading political scholar. He condemned the Times stories as a case of "piling on." "The fact that it happened has set a precedent of airing tough allegations three or four or five days before an election," Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, told E&P Online. "The timing was a problem. Hitting people with allegations that generate a strong emotional response that affects the vote should be done only in extreme cases." Times Editor John Carroll could not be reached for comment Friday. Sabato's comments were in response to the Times series that ran Oct. 2-5 detailing allegations from 15 women claiming that Schwarzenegger had either touched them inappropriately or otherwise sexually harassed them. The series started with a story that included allegations from six women, but named only two. "I didn't have a problem with the first [story's] allegations, but I had a problem with the follow-ups," Sabato said. "They were not properly vetted -- that is where the sloppiness creeps in." He added that the charges published in follow-up stories were too close to the Oct. 7 election date to allow proper time for a response. "These were women whose comments were taken at face value who should not have been," Sabato said. "There is a tendency to pile on and keep the story your own. I think it hurts credibility." But he agreed that the unusual nature of the recall election, which included only about two months of campaigning, made it more difficult to spend a lengthy amount of time on the reporting. "This was a campaign in dog years," Sabato said. "It was highly compressed." Source: Editor & Publisher Online Joe Strupp (jstrupp@editorandpublisher.com) is associate editor for E&P. mediainfo.com

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (12045)	10/13/2003 8:45:22 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793625

As for which party is fiscally conservative, this is one instance where there isn't a dime's worth of difference... I can understand the 911 money, and everything that came out of that. But the domestic spending, combined with the Farm Aid and Steel Tariffs, really give me pause, and makes me wonder what the hell Delay is up to. None of this gets through without his OK, and reports are he has been browbeating his more fiscally conservative Congressmen to get a lot of this passed. I also think that infrastructure spending in Iraq should go on the Iraqi National debt, not ours. Arnold will now go no further than Governor, IMO. The scandal was bypassed at state level, but would be revived with a vengeance in a try for National office. Plus the only place that would interest him is Prez, and a Constitutional change to make him eligible is a real long shot. My biggest interest in Arnold is to see if he can revive the old liberal/fiscal western Republican movement that was there with Reagan. Whichever party can put together this type of presentation to the voters is the wave of the future, IMO. The Democrats are looking for a way to return to power. If they could rid themselves of their socialist economic platform, and combine their social policies with fiscal sanity, they would have a chance. But that's not going to happen.