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To: Kirk © who wrote (64951)10/13/2003 11:25:54 AM
From: GVTucker  Respond to of 77400
 
When I was an undergrad, the cool place for engineers to go was offshore rigs for Schlumberger. Of course, back then, energy was about as big a piece of the S&P 500 as tech is now.

Things cycle. We have an inventive culture, and engineers are a big piece of that inventive culture. Somebody will come up with something.



To: Kirk © who wrote (64951)10/13/2003 11:58:34 AM
From: Stock Farmer  Respond to of 77400
 
So why would you recommend anyone with a brain these days go into electrical engineering?

To exercise it?

In "the good old days" of the 1980's, I remember most of us worked at large companies at lower salaries for "reasonable" hours and job security whereas if anyone wanted to get rich, they were to go to startups and work those sorts of hours and have a 20% or less chance of striking it rich.

Yes. Exactly. Then we kind of entered this weird zone where everybody had this entitlement mindset - that right out of school they deserved a couple of million bucks merely for being at the right place at the right time. Some even managed it.

Too bad for the rest, 'cause their misplaced expectations have been rather rudely bruised.

If you have to work nights and weekends, I guess many decided they can have the mornings off as a cook and they get to be more creative.


Coincidence... I was having this discussion the other day with an embedded systems designer who is now running her own business as a chef. The pay isn't so hot, but the hours are fantastic (comparatively) and the fringe benefits are delicious.

I figure we're back to the "good old days" already. Looks that way to me anyway. Although some people are still calling for "recovery". It's more like the holiday feast is over and it's back to eating normally.



To: Kirk © who wrote (64951)10/13/2003 1:19:20 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
You aren't really surprised by that jobs posting commentary are you? I mean the frankness of it is a surprise but the issues themselves you already know, right?

As a manager of these foreign teams, I know the reality is different than the promise made by Gartner and Accenture.