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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (117032)10/17/2003 1:15:55 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Excellent post.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (117032)10/17/2003 1:28:20 AM
From: FaultLine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Hawk,

Several thoughts on that article Brumar...

Very nice post, Hawk. Thanks.

--fl



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (117032)10/17/2003 12:27:04 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
AL QAEDA'S NEW COURSE By AMIR TAHERI:

I think you're right, on most points about that article.

1. Al Queda made a mistake, in attacking America in our homeland. They wanted to make us afraid, and they succeeded in that. But our response, to feeling less secure, was a greatly increased willingness of Americans to use force in Muslim areas, which is the opposite of what Al Queda intended.

2. The Islamists have an economic program that is even more dysfunctional than the Communist's. Based on their track record, where it's been tried in Iran and Afghanistan, and to a lesser extent elsewhere, the Islamists don't know how to produce prosperity. This alone, no matter what else they do, is a fatal flaw that (eventually) dooms their movement.

3. Unfortunately, most of the U.S.-backed regimes in the Islamic World don't know how to produce prosperity, either.

4. About the only example of a Muslim nation producing prosperity, in modern times, is Malaysia. The U.S. should seek to promote the Malaysian model.

5. In its early stages, Communism in the USSR, China, and Cuba, all sought to export revolution. All eventually learned to limit their ambitions, and became (mostly) status-quo powers. The Islamists, too, I believe, will go through the same process. Even if they take over the entire Muslim world, they aren't going to get back Spain (unless Spain allows in large numbers of Muslim immigrants).

6. Unfortunately, probably the only way to discredit the Islamists and their ideas, in the eyes of the people in Muslim nations, is to let them fail at governing. Until then, they champion the nationalist cause, and focus all resentments against the U.S.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (117032)10/17/2003 10:11:08 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Thanks for the comments.

The fact that Zawahiri has only in the last year taken on the role of "face man" for Al-Qaeda is indicative that Osama is dead.

Makes a lot of sense.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (117032)10/23/2003 10:06:18 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
Osama Bin Laden did not orchestrate the 9-11 attack. The collapse of the towers was impossible just from the plane impacts and fire. Government cover-up. Why?

911research.wtc7.net