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To: Bucky Katt who wrote (14685)	10/17/2003 10:35:45 AM
From: Skywatcher	Respond to of 48461

The media circus has let Bush get away with IraqMess while the N Koreans HAVE the actual WMD's and MISSILES to deliver them....but NOOOOO......W continues playing the violin (like he could play anything but a kazoo) while Asia burns CC

To: Bucky Katt who wrote (14685)	10/17/2003 10:56:17 AM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 48461

China's first manned spacecraft did more than simply showcase Beijing's efforts for civilian space flight. The Shenzhou 5, or Divine Vessel 5, spacecraft also conducted intelligence-gathering work for China's military. Included on the top of the Long March 2F rocket, which boosted Shenzhou into orbit Tuesday, was a new Chinese military intelligence-gathering satellite. The satellite was placed in orbit successfully shortly after the Shenzhou began its 14-orbit mission. No mention of the satellite launch was made in the state-run Chinese press. Additionally, defense officials said the single-astronaut spacecraft carried an infrared camera that conducted photographic spying. The camera was mounted outside the craft and has a resolution of 1.6 meters, meaning something as small as 5 feet wide can be distinguished. The space spying highlights China's plans to use space for military purposes, primarily to develop missiles and sensors, and to blind or cripple U.S. communications and intelligence systems in any conflict over Taiwan. Lt. Col. Mark Stokes, director of the Taiwan desk at the Pentagon, said in a speech Sept. 30 that China's space program is closely linked to the Chinese military. China's "space assets will play a major role in any use of force against Taiwan and in preventing foreign intervention," Col. Stokes said. It is working to develop networks of satellites that will be used for spying and communications for the military, he said. China also has shown "significant indications" of developing space weapons, such as satellite-killing missiles and satellites and lasers that can disable U.S. military and intelligence satellites, he said. The Long March rocket booster also benefited from illegal U.S.-technology transfers in the 1990s, when U.S. satellite companies helped China fix electrical problems with the boosters. The booster improvements also benefited Chinese strategic missiles, which are made by the same Chinese manufacturers of the Long March rocket. Thank you Bill Clinton, a picture of clinton was in the capsule

To: Bucky Katt who wrote (14685)	10/17/2003 11:52:26 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 48461

CNN International covered the Chinese space shot in detail; anyone who gets CNNI on their satellite or cable package should check it out. BBC World is equally good for a non-Foxified view of world events. A lot of PBS channels run their newscast in the evening, and BBC America runs on DTV and other packages.

To: Bucky Katt who wrote (14685)	10/17/2003 12:23:37 PM
From: xcr600	Respond to of 48461

<< Message #14685 from ratdogman at Oct 17, 2003 10:20 AM I am surprised how little coverage China and their putting of a man into orbit has gotten here in the US. This is a very very big deal, and has huge future strategic implications. And then we have N. Korea saying they may light up one of their nukes, just to demonstrate they really have some, and not much coverage here in the US on that either >> I thought the same thing. I did see the nuclear headline on the CNN "crawler" though. News is now turning into something like the Enquirer.. where the gossipy type stories claim the headlines.