To: carranza2 who wrote (117281 ) 10/20/2003 12:29:51 PM From: marcos Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 I've heard worse rants at regional district zoning meetings here in BC .... it's a relative thing, maybe ... note how i use 'moderate' in context of the whole - 'pretty moderate under the circumstances ' Consider the man's audience .... foreign affairs issues of muslim nations revolve at this time around the question of terrorism, and he is against its use .... so is that 'moderate', i dunno, i tend to think it is, compared to various others out there .... much of what you say here is true, imho, and it will be until we finish converting the species to the One True Faith of evangelical agnosticism, but it also gets said over and over on this and other threads, often by those who seem quite satisfied with total rule of the planet by a few individuals of extreme power cooking up far-reaching decisions in the back rooms of Washington DC, and using an Us vs. Them belief structure fully as simplistically idiotic as the muslim version to justify their rule ..... so, what value is there in me typing more of it, when there exist better avenues, and greater risks to civilisation than this Mahathir fellow You have to consider also, that setting up on muslim lands a state 'as jewish as England is english' is inherently threatening to muslim identity ..... one bunch of religious whackos invading another, taking their lands and bulldozing their houses, i mean geez you don't need a college degree in psychology to figure out how this leads directly to trouble Here's a more moderate fellow, presidente of Bosnia-Herzegovina [from frank's post, just above yours] - bernama.com 'Hereby, I would like to brief you on my country - its' past, its' present and its' future. Bosnia and Herzegovina was always a multiethnic country, where lived together the Bosniacs-Muslims, Serbs-Orthodoxies, Croats-Catholics, as well as numerous ethnic and religious minorities. When the Jews were expelled from Spain in 15th century, Bosnia and Herzegovina provided them a shelter becoming their new home. Muslims, Orthodoxies, Catholics, Jews and others used to live together peacefully in Bosnia and Herzegovina for hundreds of years. In Sarajevo, which people call a Jerusalem of Europe, within a half of kilometer square meters, you can find the mosque, the orthodox church, catholic cathedral and the Jewish synagogue laying next to each other. So, had i a choice between dealing with Mahathir and Tihic, i'd take the latter .... fact is though, it's a small planet, we've got to deal with them all, and i don't think Mahathir the most difficult, relatively, all things considered .... cheers