To: marcos who wrote (117286 ) 10/20/2003 2:05:13 PM From: carranza2 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Face it carranza, a -Staat modified with a prefix denoting religion is not going to work very well on lands prefixed for centuries with an opposing and equally whacko religion ..... wouldn't work well anywhere, imho, but the ethnic cleansing would almost certainly have gone smoother for the zionists in Uganda, Herzl made the wrong choice [had the choice made for him by others, actually, yes i heard the story] While Israel is obviously a religious state in the broadest sense of the word, it is not a Jewish state per se since there is no religious law masquerading a civil and criminal law. Moreover, there is freedom of religion. Can't say the same about the various -ias, -stans, and -iqs, can you? Islamic countries are doomed until there is a complete and effective separation between state and church and unfettered freedom of religion. Didn't hear Mahathir talk about that, did you? And you won't. If anything, the debate is about unifying the state and its legal system even more closely with the official religion. The separation of church and state is the elephant in the tent no Islamic leader dares talk about.the milking of the WTC crime to justify rule of the planet by a small group of neocons holding power in the US marcos, this sounds dangerously like something Mahathir might have written. Add 'jewish' to neocons and I'm sure he'd agree wholeheartedly. What do you propose be done about the WTC crime? Not go after AQ, despite its numerous bombings and the dangers it poses? What you see as "milking" I see as self-defense. By the way, how do you figure that the US or its neocon officials "rule the world?"