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To: TimF who wrote (176810)	10/20/2003 5:36:11 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571715

I don't think you understand my point. It is not the Israel should get more because they are stronger but that in any final settlement they will get more because they are stronger. If they become weaker they will get less, maybe nothing. I understand the point. Its comes from the might makes right thesis. However, in this case, stronger is an illusion. On paper, Israel is stronger but in reality, it is very vulnerable. Its not unlike the American colonists vs the Brits. On paper, the Amer. colonists should have been slaughtered but in reality there were certain conditions that favored their winning. Its the same with the Palestinians and the Israelis. There will never be peace so long as Israel tries to hold out giving the Palestinians their state. the Israelis have always been stronger, first with the help of Europeans who felt guilty over the atrocities committed by Hitler, and then with the help of the US. The Arabs also had help from Europe and then the USSR. Very minor help.......we give on average $3 billion per year to Israel.....that's a lot of dinero for one very small country. In terms of number they have always been superior and even in terms of quality of equipment they have not always been behind Israel. The latter is absolute bull.....most of their weaponry was old and the ones they got from Russia were of poor quality. In most of Israel's wars Israel was stronger because of their own skill and the relative openness of their society more then they where superior because of foreign aid. That's just not true. No question they were fighting the good fight and the Israelis are excellent at military strategy but their weaponry was vastly superior as well. Even with all that, the Israelis got clipped by the Arabs in the 1973 war. In any case it doesn't matter to my argument if Israel's superiority of power was mostly due to help from outsides sources. The point is it exists, and while the more powerful party doesn't always get more of what it wants then the weaker party, that's the way to bet. Trust me......you're making a very bad bet! ted