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To: tejek who wrote (176813)	10/20/2003 7:36:31 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571808

The Arabs convinced the Palestinians to hold out for more land. The war of 1948 was to get more of the land back for Palestine. No the war in 48 was waged by the Arabs with the desire to destroy Israel. If they had succeded they probably would have devided the land between them but even if they had given it to the Palestinians the war was over the fact that the Arab nations didn't want Israel in their midst. The Sinai Peninsula is the Egyptian land Israel occupied after the 1967 war. I didn't mention the Sinai. Gaza was occupied by Egypt after 48. I don't understand. The only international land under the UN partition proposal of 1947 was Jerusalem. Jerusalem might have been the only international land but the rest of Israel/Palestine was devided into many small areas often not contigous. That's BS. One half of Israel is surrounded by water. The other half is Palestine to the east, desert to the south and the mts to the north. Israel is very defensible. Israel minus the west bank is 13 miles wide at one point, and even at its widest it provides very little strategic depth. In any case I wasn't talking about Israel minus the West Bank I was talking about the original partision plan which gave neither the Palestinians or the Israelis defensable territory. One source apparently pro Israeli the other pro Palestinian but its the same territory. knesset.gov.il passia.org BS......its not like that at all. Its very like that. None of Palestine was Jewish land until the early 20th century. Not true. In any case there wasn't a Palestinian nationalist cause until the 20th century either. They where just Arabs who lived under other Turks, or British, or other Arabs for a long time. Also even if it was it doesn't change things. A lot of the Israeli land has been Jewish for generations, now you want them to not only give up the post 67 occupied territories but more land on top of that to a hostile force when they are surrounded by numerous potentially hostile powers? Isreal occupies the land that since 1947, was always intended as a Palestinian state. Jews have occupied a lot of the land for a lot longer then since 1947. In any case "since 1947" is longer then many countries have been in existance. Its a fact on the ground. Even most people who support the case for a Palestinian state on better terms than what Israel has offered only insist on the West Bank and Gaza and a half of Jerusalem. The only people I have heard arguing for more before where those arguing that all the land should be given to the Palestinians. Many Israelis favor the land for peace proposal that was developed under Rabin and reinstituted under Ehud Barak. You aren't asking for that. You have been asking for the UN partision line of 1947. Tim