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To: The Philosopher who wrote (77988)	10/21/2003 12:44:39 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

But you do live, so you make many assumptions based on the most rational analysis of what you believe that you perceive and understand. That being the case, it is not rational to exclude from that process the most fundamental questions of life. I agree with your first statement. I differ on the second. There is no reason why you have to have answers to those questions. You can get through life satisfactorily without them. Forcing a answer that you don't need to have and don't have the data to get is not rational. Sure, think it through and take your best guess, but don't claim it's an answer. And certainly don't think it's enough of an answer to warrant conflict with your fellow guessers. That's most definitely not rational.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (77988)	10/21/2003 12:59:13 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I'm not very good at this stuff, but I have heard you make this argument before and it just doesn't work for me. After all the reasoning is done, you wind up taking a leap of faith, even if you think it is done with logic under your wings. Now, you may say that we do all these other things on faith also, but we have immediate and repeated feedback- we don't fall into a black hole, we eat many apples without blowing up, we feel better when we swim. Of course, there are some who probably look at apples with suspicion, having once bitten into a worm, and I have a friend who stepped off a curb she didn't see, fell on her face and broke both wrists, but, overall, don't we have a great deal of physical proof on which to base this "faith". I have an easier time contemplating some great organizational Force (though not one that cares or Loves or even reasons in the human sense) -- maybe the word God, with all its baggage, is what gets in the way for me. Since there is not a great deal of empirical proof for God the Intervener, or God the Bearded Dad, or God the Avenger (hmm- well, maybe that one)and especially God the Savior (my God is bigger than yours), I find myself not "giving up", but not committing. Hope this made even a modicum of sense.