To: SofaSpud who wrote (3164 ) 10/21/2003 11:53:41 PM From: Gulo Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37262 If they are ever to win power, conservatives -- and Conservatives -- have to do three things: 1) decide what they stand for; 2) recruit a competent, experienced front bench; and 3) figure out how to make these saleable to mainstream, urban Canadians. The significant thing is that the agreement-in-principle does state, surprisingly well, what the Conservatives will stand for. It is not nearly as close to conservative as it is to classical liberal or libertarian. (For those that are not familiar with political science, the term "classical liberal" is about as far from the socialist statist Liberal Party policy as you can get. Classical liberals were most akin to todays libertarians.) The experienced front bench is a small group. In four or five years, the green ones should be ready. How do you make liberty a value in a society that expects big brother to assume responsibility at every turn? If the lights go out, government gets the blame for not regulating enough, instead of for the over-regulation that caused the supply gap in the first place. If bad weather hits, the government should compensate people as if it was the government's fault. If something costs too much to afford, get the government to pay for it, because, after all, the government is "them", not "us". The inability to educate the public on the value of their economic and social freedoms is what will keep the Conservative Party out of office until the public tires of the Liberals. I just wish they chose a name that reflects the agreement. Maybe they should call it the Progressive Libertarian Party. The word "Conservative" is usually interpreted to mean a combination of economic conservatism along with state regulation in social spheres. Read the agreement and then take the following test. Ask yourself how someone would score if they were to adhere to the agreement-in-principle.self-gov.org By the way, how do you all score? -g