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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Richard S who wrote (481457)	10/25/2003 6:35:56 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769667

The latest ABS national poll has Dean @ 16% and Kerry @ 11%.

To: Richard S who wrote (481457)	10/25/2003 7:27:25 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 769667

Dean is NOT the frontrunner, just being perceived that way: This poll was taken a month ago at the time of the Wesley Clark entrance. Clark has simmerd down since then, but you can see both the first and second place numbers are very similar for Dean, Clark and Kerry, not to mention Gephardt and Lieberman: NA: Based on 480 Democrats or Democratic leaners RV: Based on 457 Democrats or Democratic leaners who are registered to vote 2003 Sep 19-21 2003 Sep 8-10 2003 Aug 25-26 NA RV NA RV NA RV Wesley Clark 21 22 9 10 2 2 Howard Dean 12 13 13 14 11 12 John Kerry 12 11 11 12 9 10 Joe Lieberman 11 10 12 13 23 23 Dick Gephardt 9 11 15 16 13 13 Al Sharpton 5 4 3 2 4 4 John Edwards 4 4 5 5 5 5 Bob Graham 4 4 5 5 6 4 Carol Moseley Braun 3 3 5 4 4 5 Dennis Kucinich 2 2 2 2 1 1 None/Other/No Opinion 17 16 20 17 22 21 4. Who would be your second choice? COMBINED RESPONSES (Q. 3-4); Percentages total more than 100% due to multiple responses 2003 Sep 19-21 NA RV Wesley Clark 29 29 Howard Dean 22 24 John Kerry 23 23 Joe Lieberman 24 22 Dick Gephardt 21 23 Al Sharpton 8 7 John Edwards 7 7 Bob Graham 7 7 Carol Moseley Braun 8 8 Dennis Kucinich 4 4 None/Other/No Opinion 15 15

To: Richard S who wrote (481457)	10/25/2003 7:36:50 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Sorry, it was the Zogby poll Sept 6th which showed Dean and Kerry in a tie. Two other September polls showed Kerry leading the pack by a small margin. The CNN poll in September was touted by the Kerry campaign as it showed him leading Dean and all others. So, has anything changed since then? Not likely. As you can see by the second choice poll also, most minds are still not made up. In the end I think voters will go with who can best beat Bush. That means Kerry and Clark not Dean, as is borne out by dozens of polls except the one off the Dean website you posted. Talk about ignoring polls you dont want to see.

To: Richard S who wrote (481457)	10/25/2003 7:45:49 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Kerry runs strongest against Bush in new Zogby Poll: The Zogby America telephone poll of 921 likely voters chosen at random was conducted October 15 - 18, and has a margin of error of +/- 3.3%. Error margins are higher in sub-groups. Overall opinion of Bush slipped slightly from September Zogby numbers. Nearly six in ten (56%) have a favorable opinion and 42% an unfavorable opinion now, compared to 58% favorable and 41% unfavorable in September 22 - 24 polling. The president would outpoll any of the current leading Democratic contenders if the election were held today. He would earn 46% of the vote against retired General Wesley Clark’s 37%; would beat former Vermont Governor Dr. Howard Dean, 47% - 39%; would poll 44% against Massachusetts Senator John Kerry’s 41%; would win over Missouri Congressman Richard Gephardt 47% - 38%, and would beat Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman, 46% - 38%. Yet when matched against an unnamed (generic) Democratic presidential contender, Bush would lose that theoretical match-up with 43%, compared to the Democrat’s 45%. In September polling, Bush would have lost to a generic Democratic, 41% - 45%.