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To: AllansAlias who wrote (84972)	10/26/2003 10:01:46 PM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 209892

Back in the mid 80's or so for several years the Yankees couldn't do a thing right. They just kept losing. A player of the caliber of Don Mattingly never even got to play in the post season. Then, I think that they entered some sort of a Wave 3... they became unstoppable, along with the later years of the Bull market in stocks. They had it all together for many years. This time, however, they sort of coasted into defeat. Joe Torre during an interview after the last game didn't even appear to be too upset. I am really relatively clueless about the game... probably shows, ain't it... --g ...

To: AllansAlias who wrote (84972)	10/27/2003 9:50:02 AM
From: reaper	Respond to of 209892

<<it was a psychologically offensive decision that served to motivate the Marlins and, perhaps, psych-out those damn yankees>> and this coming from a TA guy. come on. the "motivated" Marlins scored on a terrible throw (though Gonzalez' slide was quite remarkable) and a pair of errors by Clutch. if the Marlins had lost, we'd be talking about how the "experience" of the Yankees won out over the "overwhelmed" Marlins. since they won, we're talking about how the Marlins were "motivated" and the Yankees were "psyched out" or "sleepwalking" or whatever. next thing i know you'll be telling me you believe in news, and what the Urinal writes every morning about "why" the market went up or down. Cheers

To: AllansAlias who wrote (84972)	10/27/2003 5:16:04 PM
From: reaper	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 209892

not that anyone is surprised, but Grady is now officially gone. chalk up 5 more wins next year just on that improvement. now let's see what Theo can do in the free-agent / non-tender market to upgrade 2B, 4th & 5th starter, and one bullpen spot. i'm betting on Luis Castillo for 2B (unless the Yankees are sufficiently dis-enchanted with Soriano to move him and we could somehow get to him in a multi-team deal) and Danys Baez for the pen, with starter spots 4 & 5 filled cheaply by Arroyo, Lyon and Fossum. let the hot stove season begin (no, we don't watch hockey or football in my household) Cheers