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To: Road Walker who wrote (177142)10/27/2003 8:03:57 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575422
 
It's starting to look like a Vietnam sequel. The hardest polical decision is to quit, after investing 100's of American lives, probably 10,000 Iraqi lives, $Billions of dollars, and international political capitol. Does this thing go on and on and on, getting incrementally worse? When do you pull the plug, and say "we fu--ed up"? It's the hardest decision to make, as Vietnam demonstrated really well.

JF,

I believe you are one of the more ignorant individuals on this thread concerning this matter. While I think tejek & Al are out of it, I believe theirs is principally partisanship. But your continued references to Vietnam just scream ignorance.

It is as though you think that post-Vietnam, the United States should have given up its right to self-defense for fear of another Vietnam-like quagmire. We were attacked, you know? Need I remind you that Vietnam was the product of weak liberal presidents, not that of a strong, determined administration such as the current one?

Perhaps you're unaware of it, but there is general consensus that the failure in Vietnam was due largely to one problem: The liberal presidents were so chickensh*t to commit all the resources needed to win the war, that they ended up killing 58,300 American soldiers, a little at a time. Please tell me how the current conflict is, in any way, similar to Vietnam?



To: Road Walker who wrote (177142)10/27/2003 8:10:52 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1575422
 
JF, But we jumped into this "dung pile", and it doesn't look like anyone wants to jump in with us.

I see it differently. I see members of the U.N. willing to help out, if only America would cede more control and authority. I'm all for that, as long as the goals are clearly laid out and the means to that goal are effective. After all, if a U.N.-led force turns out to be even more ineffective than an American-led force, then what's the point?

Unlike Vietnam, I feel we have real victory in our grasp. Let's not fumble the ball at the 10-yard-line.

Tenchusatsu

P.S. - Yes, I'm being very optimistic here.



To: Road Walker who wrote (177142)10/27/2003 8:29:03 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1575422
 
John, well said.

ted