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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Dan B. who wrote (488787)11/7/2003 3:30:31 AM
From: Rick McDougall  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Re: "Cause you see Dan B., there are no WMDs and no links to al Qaeda"
<History tells me you've stated the above over and over, yet never proven it is true.>......why would tejek have to prove that there is no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? You have it backwards Danny boy. The onus is on the Republicans to "find" those wmd, and to date even their own henchman haven't found them. Blix told them so before the invasion of Iraq, but nobody was listening. I would think its Bush & his band of "nogoods" that better find those wmd or the shit is going to hit the fan, & Bush & his corporate cronies know it. They are probably running shit scared right now.

<Do you believe Bush is behind 911? I don't, you?>.......can you prove that Bush & his cronies were not behind 911? Would appreciate acompanying urls with the noise.



To: Dan B. who wrote (488787)11/7/2003 7:46:52 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Re: "Cause you see Dan B., there are no WMDs and no links to al Qaeda"

History tells me you've stated the above over and over, yet never proven it is true.


History tells you nothing because you refuse to believe what your God given eyes tell you...... in 8 months, no one has found even a particle of WMDs in Iraq. You can play this game with your head all you want but you look pretty stupid when you try to play it with the rest of us.

Logic tells me if it is not true, surely Bush did not lie.

You call that logic? You don't know what logic is, do you? All this time you've been winging it. Pitiful!

If it is true, we STILL don't know Bush lied.

Yes, we do. Actually, I think its worse than simply that he lied. I think he knew the truth and pushed hard to get us into war before the American public had even an inkling of that truth. That's what makes it so dastardly. However, I suspect it will be hard proving that one.

If he believed it was true, by definition he did not lie.

He didn't believe it was true; otherwise, he would have let the weapon inspectors finish their job.

Since by evidence available to you ALL these options remain open, therefore, you do not know anyone lied. Capeesh?

Sorry, big guy, your argument does not hold water.

Re: "Oh, then, you can provide me with a link. Then again, Fox's news stories have a way of disappearing into the night"

LOL, I can understand your skepticism, Osama/Al-Qaeda would never threaten awful stuff like that, LOL.


Here a joke; there a joke but no link. I see!

Do you believe Bush is behind 911? I don't, you?

What does that have to do with anything we have been discussing.



To: Dan B. who wrote (488787)11/7/2003 9:52:35 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
<font color=brown>And you wonder why I think Bush is lying..........<font color=black>

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nytimes.com

Jessica Lynch Criticizes U.S. Accounts of Her Ordeal
by David D Kirkpatrick

In her first public statements since her rescue in Iraq, Jessica Lynch criticized the military for exaggerating accounts of her rescue and re-casting her ordeal as a patriotic fable.

In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch says others' accounts of her heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed because of what she says was overstatement.



Asked by the ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer if the military's portrayal of the rescue bothered her, Ms. Lynch said: <font color=red>"Yeah, it does. It does that they used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff. Yeah, it's wrong," <font color=black>according to a partial transcript of the interview to be broadcast on Tuesday.

After months of retreating from the news media, Ms. Lynch will be a ubiquitous presence next week. In addition to her appearance on ABC, she will be on the cover of Time magazine, and NBC will broadcast a movie based on an Iraqi's account of her ordeal. On Tuesday, the book publisher Knopf will release an account of her experience, "I Am a Soldier, Too," written with her cooperation by a former reporter for The New York Times, Rick Bragg.

The book and the movie are unrelated and tell different versions of Ms. Lynch's story, but the publisher has timed the book to capitalize on publicity from the television movie.

The book has already added another, lurid indignity to the public accounts of her capture. It reports that Ms. Lynch's military doctors found injuries consistent with sexual assault and unlikely to have resulted from the Humvee crash that caused her other wounds, suggesting that she was raped after her capture. Ms. Lynch, who was unconscious immediately after the crash, does not remember any such assault, according to people who have talked to her and read the book. Those details of the book's contents were reported yesterday in The New York Daily News.

In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch says others' accounts of her heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed because of what she says was overstatement.

<font color=red> At first, a military spokesman in Iraq told journalists that American soldiers had exchanged fire with Iraqis during the rescue, without adding that resistance was minimal. Then the military released a dramatic, green-tinted, night-vision video of the mission. Soon news organizations were repeating reports, attributed to anonymous American officials, that Ms. Lynch had heroically resisted her capture, emptying her weapon at her attackers.

But subsequent investigations determined that Ms. Lynch was injured by the crash of her vehicle, her weapon jammed before she could fire, the Iraqi doctors treated her kindly, and the hospital was already in friendly hands when her rescuers arrived.<font color=black>


Asked how she felt about the reports of her heroism, Ms. Lynch told Ms. Sawyer, "It hurt in a way that people would make up stories that they had no truth about. Only I would have been able to know that, because the other four people on my vehicle aren't here to tell the story. So I would have been the only one able to say, yeah, I went down shooting. But I didn't."

And asked about reports that the military exaggerated the danger of the rescue mission, Ms. Lynch said, "Yeah, I don't think it happened quite like that," although she added that in that context anybody would have approached the hospital well-armed. She continued: "I don't know why they filmed it, or why they say the things they, you know, all I know was that I was in that hospital hurting. I needed help."

Lt. Col. Rivers Johnson, a spokesman for the Department of Defense, declined to comment on Ms. Lynch's views. But he said, "Essentially, the mission to rescue Jessica Lynch demonstrated America's resolve to account for all of its missing service members." He added that the rescue had been conducted under the appropriate procedures for a fluid situation like the war in Iraq. "You always plan for the worst."

Ms. Lynch also disputed statements by Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief, the Iraqi lawyer, that he saw her captors slap her.

"From the time I woke up in that hospital, no one beat me, no one slapped me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane Sawyer, adding, "I'm so thankful for those people, because that's why I'm alive today."


Jeff Coplon, who helped Mr. Rehaief write his book, "Because Each Life is Precious," said it was possible that both he and Ms. Lynch were telling the truth in their divergent accounts.

"One of the questions that could arise in the wake of this kind of trauma is that someone could believe they remember everything and their memory could still be incomplete," Mr. Coplon said.

Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

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