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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (79078)	11/12/2003 7:00:13 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

Just didn't want you to think you got rid of me with those stereotypical male comments.. :) Gee, and that's just what I WOULD have thought -- that your hormones had unbalanced you and made you burst into tears at being misunderstood and feeling unloved, and that you had run weeping out of the virtual room. I'm glad you clarified things so I didn't make that very natural assumption. And if this needs a <g>, we're in big trouble!

To: Rambi who wrote (79078)	11/12/2003 9:19:58 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

The French Were Right By Paul Starobin, National Journal © National Journal Group Inc. Friday, Nov. 7, 2003 Let's just say this at the start, since this is the beginning, not the end, of the discussion about how to grapple with the post-9/11 world (and because it's the grown-up, big-man thing to do): The French were right. Let's say it again: The French -- yes, those "cheese-eatin' surrender monkeys," as their detractors in the United States so pungently called them -- were right. "Be careful!" That was the exclamation-point warning French President Jacques Rene Chirac sent to "my American friends" in a March 16 interview on CNN, just before the Pentagon began its invasion of Iraq. "Think twice before you do something which is not necessary and may be very dangerous," Chirac advised. And this was not some last-minute heads-up, but the culmination of a full-brief argument that the French advanced against the perils of a U.S.-led intervention, pressed over months at the United Nations in New York and at meetings in Paris, Prague, and Washington. There were, of course, other war critics in Europe and elsewhere, but nobody presented the arguments more insistently or comprehensively than did the French, God bless 'em. Still seething over the French prewar position on Iraq, administration officials are hardly of a mind to bestow awards on the French for prescience. The Democrats, many of whom supported the war, would have no political gain in citing the unpopular French as role models for their thinking, even if the statements now made by the party's leaders in Congress and its presidential candidates so closely resemble prewar French comments. ("The war was an unnecessary war," retired Gen. Wesley Clark pronounced, a la Chirac, on October 9.) nationaljournal.com

To: Rambi who wrote (79078)	11/12/2003 11:48:50 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

I love it when PETA gets its dander up. espn.go.com bottles and glue together little birch-bark canoes — Troop 34 in Alaska is learning to trap and skin beavers. In a practice that has angered animal rights activists, the girls are killing the beavers as part of a state flood-management program. "We think it sends a very, very bad message that when animals cause a problem you kill them," said Stephanie Boyles of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. She said the Girl Scouts should want girls to become "stewards of wildlife, not abusers." Last spring, about 10 members of the Fairbanks troop and their families helped catch two beavers using snare and lethal traps. The girls were taught how to find the animals' dens and how to lay the traps. Working under close supervision, the girls used knives to skin the beavers. The troop had the pelts tanned and plans to make hats and mittens once a dozen hides are collected. The girls also want to cook beaver meat. They plan to begin setting traps out again this month. <more>