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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: sandintoes who wrote (493398)	11/16/2003 12:21:43 AM
From: laura_bush	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

Bush visit labelled a 'selfish stunt' Nov 14 2003 George Bush's meeting with families of British soldiers killed in Iraq was dismissed as a selfish stunt by two angry fathers. The United States President wants to meet relatives during his visit to the UK to tell them their loved ones died in a "noble cause". As he prepared to face the bereaved families, Mr Bush was unapologetic about his decision to go to war. "The actions we have taken will make the world more secure and the world more peaceful in the long run." he said. Mr Bush said he will offer the families the sympathy "of the American people and the prayers of the president". The President, who arrives on Tuesday, will tell them "that their loved ones did not die in vain". But grieving fathers Robert Kelly and Reg Keys said the meeting would only benefit Mr Bush. Mr Kelly's 18-year-old son Private Andrew Kelly, of 3rd Battalion The Parachute Regiment, was killed in a shooting accident in Basra on May 6. The 53-year-old father said the President and Prime Minister Tony Blair did not care about the deaths of British troops. "For these people to meet families, it is only for their own gain. They are not sympathetic towards people like me. They don't really care that my son lost his life," he said. Mr Keys, 51, said he opposed Mr Bush's visit, but wanted to meet him to tell him he was responsible for his son's death. Lance Corporal Thomas Keys was one of six Royal Military Policemen killed by a mob as they defended a police station in the southern town of Al Majar al-Kabir in June. He was four days short of his 21st birthday. icberkshire.icnetwork.co.uk

To: sandintoes who wrote (493398)	11/16/2003 12:39:28 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

KNOW YOUR ENEMY sandintoes, Empathy is something that is very difficult for RWEs like you. You are only interested in your own selfish and greedy ends, so you have a blind spot when it comes to thinking about how you come across to other people. Now, lets think this Iraq thing through. Imagine if you will that the Chinese have invaded the United States, and they have set up roadblocks in your neighborhood. Each time you want to go down to the hairdressers, the grocery store or the fitness center, you are pulled over in a roadblock and roughly handled by soldiers who speak Mandarin and can't understand a word you say in English. Would you feel resentful? Would you feel that these soldiers were foreign? Would you feel that they were intruders and that they needed to be fought against? Of course you would. You're selfish. You wouldn't want the inconvenience, not to mention the fact that your house could be a target for their tanks, helicopters and gunships. You'd hate having something like that happening to you. Now imagine you are a successful Iraqi woman with a middle class life and an invading colonial army of occupiers attacked your home town. How are you going to feel about the Americans? You'd hate their guts. And so would I. So, can you empathize with the people of Iraq and see why they resent us? We both know, when we are being honest, that Bush isn't in Iraq for the sake of "democracy", hell, he's doing everything he can in the U.S. to end democracy. Think Homeland Security, think USA PATRIOT Act. Think Total Information Awareness schemes. George Bush is in Iraq to steal the oil. Everyone knows that. Bush lies about. But you don't have to. ****** Another example? If George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Bend Franklin, John Hancock and the rest of our Founding Fathers were alive today and living in Iraq, they'd be on the side of the Iraqi freedom fighters. And they would see George Bush as just as autocratic, aristocratic and evil as we saw England's King George III. George Bush is an evil war racketeer. He's getting rich off this war, as are his buddies. And he's screwing the American taxpayer and all the people of Iraq with his crimes. George Bush is the traitor to our nation. Not me.

To: sandintoes who wrote (493398)	11/16/2003 5:40:15 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

BUSH NOT ALLOWED TO DESTROY DEMOCRACY IN BRITAIN news.independent.co.uk Fuhrer Bush attempted to do to the British what he has been allowed to do here in the U.S. Destroy free speech. He couldn't get away with it. Quote: "In a significant about-turn, the police are expected to allow the largest march, on Thursday, to go past Downing Street and Parliament in a bid to avert violent clashes with hardline demonstrators." **** "The trip threatens to be a PR disaster for the President and his officials have tried - apparently in vain - to ensure that is he kept as far away from demonstrators as possible." God, we can only hope so! He deserves to fail and end up in jail! ******* Hey, what is this HYPOCRISY all about? "Quite how his meeting the families of British servicemen killed in Iraq will be perceived at home is unclear: the President has not attended the funerals of any of the American troops killed. Nor has he visited any of the thousands of injured troops who have returned to the US."