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To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/20/2003 11:48:46 PM
From: Threshold  Respond to of 48461
 
sounds like a brain phart. ok so i'm not sure i know how to undo a chinese bra anyways.



To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/21/2003 12:34:31 AM
From: Sultan  Respond to of 48461
 
Translation: since every one around the world is getting richer and we are being screwed ever so gently, it may not hurt as much as people think and we might even start liking it over time..



To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/21/2003 8:31:23 AM
From: George Burdell  Respond to of 48461
 
He said, "In prison, bending over for a big hairy guy named Slobo is probably better than a shiv in the ribs."



To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/21/2003 10:41:23 AM
From: Skywatcher  Respond to of 48461
 
How about THAT OMR !?!?!?!??!
NICE!
arghhhh mitey....there's GOLD dubloons in Davy Jones' locker!!!
and I aim to get me some
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To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/21/2003 10:43:04 AM
From: Skywatcher  Respond to of 48461
 
Whooooo
WHT is ROCKIN.....
new high again.....
2.80! and the warrants are laggin...get em now
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To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/21/2003 11:07:29 AM
From: tsigprofit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 48461
 
The Bush / Bin Laden family connection

William, I have been doing some reading - and most
of this shocked me. Although my dislike of Bush is
well known, I don't generally buy in to conspriacy
theories, but would like your take on the facts below.

I'm guessing that if we can investigate Clinton for having
a sexual relationship with Lewinsky, we might want to take
a look at at something that definitely links the Bush family with the Bin Laden family? What do you think?

Might explain why we invaded Iraq and not Saudi Arabia after 9/11??

Summary:
Salem bin Laden is Osama's older brother.

Salem headed the family's business, and invested in
the George W. Bush company - Arbusto Energy Inc. in 1977.

James Bath, a Bush friend, was used to funnel money from the Bin Laden family to Arbusto.

Salem was killed in a freak flying accident in Texas in 1988.

Salem also had close ties to the Saudi Royal family.

Arbusto - Bush's company, became Bush Exploration when Bush I became VP.

Two months before the Gulf War I, Bush (W) sold his Harken stock (Harken was formed as a descendant of Bush Exploration)

Eight days later, Harken stock nosedived, losing 75% of it's value - after Bush got out of course.

Shortly after Bush's father was appointed director of the CIA, Salem bin Laden appointed Bath as his business representative in Texas. According to The Houston Chronicle, Salem bin Laden, heir to one of the largest building companies in the Middle East, signed a trust agreement appointing Bath as his Houston representative in 1976.

In 1978 Bath purchased Houston Gulf Airport on behalf of Salem bin Laden. When bin Laden died in 1988, his interest in the airfield passed to bin Mahfouz.

As head of Binladen Brothers Construction (now the Binladen Group), a company that later helped build U.S. airfields during Operation Desert Storm, bin Laden was close to King Fahd of Saudi Arabia and "a good friend of the U.S. government," a San Antonio attorney, Wayne Fagan, who represented Salem bin Laden from 1982 to 1988, told the San Antonio Express-News.

americanfreepress.net



To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/21/2003 11:11:43 AM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 48461
 
The Bush administration's increasing focus on a re-election in 2004 has
resulted in an alarming new development - one that may turn out to be the
shot across the bow that leads to a full blown international trade war.
This was of course yesterday's imposition of import quotas on certain kinds
of textiles from China. This is the first action of its kind, and by itself
seems relatively innocuous, but once you announce one quota or tariff,
you're likely going to announce additional ones, and the other side feels
it must retaliate and back and forth and round and round in a vicious
cycle. If these are the first salvos in a new trade war, the only possible
outcome is the destruction of globalization - and a complete disaster for
the world economy, much like the one we saw in the thirties.
The textile import quota was an early Christmas present to the South in the
US, where since 1997, 250 textile companies have ceased operation and more
than 200,000 workers have lost their jobs. It's also creates a trend since
it comes after the Bush administration's 2002 pandering to steel industry
cronies with the implementation of tariffs on foreign steel. The proposal
is also intended, poorly conceived though it may be, as a method of
ameliorating the staggering and accelerating US trade deficit.
Clearly, the closer we get to election day, the more the administration's
agenda is shifting from plain old "growth" to "job growth". The
administration's every effort from now until election day will focus on job
creation, regardless of the economic consequences. The fact that every
Economics 101 graduate knows that trade barriers and the like are economic
suicide need not get in the way, as long as the administration can chalk up
real or imagined job growth.
Let's backtrack a bit to see how we got to where we are today and why trade
barriers would cause such calamity. The vast majority of US growth over the
last 10 years has been made possible by an unparalleled and unsustainable
credit boom engendered by historically low interest rates. The interest
rate trend has only been possible because of the deflationary effects of
productivity and the globalization of production - which always moves the
production of goods to the cheapest source. This, combined with the US
Dollar's special status as the world's reserve currency has saved the world
from inflationary pressures.
This might all be coming to an end. The Bush administration, if it promotes
protectionist measures, would be aborting the entire beneficial cycle that
has brought the US economy to where it stands today. A trade war fuelled by
domestic populist ("Buy American!" and "Protect American jobs!") sentiments
at this point would have cataclysmic impact on the purchasing power of the
dollar and would start a new and viciously inflationary cycle. First, the
weakening dollar trend all by itself will at some point bring higher import
prices and inflationary pressure. Second, prices in the US would rise
dramatically in a tariff-rich environment, causing an increase in interest
rates. A rise in interest rates shuts down the cheap credit addicted
American consumer and the booming mortgage market, which will derail the
consumer-driven American economy. Shutting down the American consumption
engine also shuts down export economies that depend on it. The babies you
throw out in this particular ocean of bathwater are the buyers of American
treasuries, and therefore the financers of the colossal US Budget Deficit:
take Southeast Asia, for example. Together, Japan, China, South Korea and
Taiwan currently hold about $1.3 trillion in reserves - most of them in US
Dollars - about the same as the entire M1 money supply in the US. For
years, the Southeast Asian countries have been sending real goods and
services in return for a growing government stock pile of dollars, for
which they have no use. Taken by itself, this is an unsustainable trend -
and a trade war would only serve to rapidly accelerate its demise.
Suddenly you have a world in economic hurt that is awash in dollars, a
world that can no longer finance the spiralling US Budget Deficits. The
inflationary effects of this are almost unimaginable. With so many holders
of this debt and not enough new buyers, there will be an unprecedented
imbalance in buyers and sellers of both US Dollars and US-denominated
treasuries. The exit window for this sorry lot of holders will not
accommodate everyone at once - only a massively depreciated US Dollar and
higher US interest rates would bring things back into balance.
The end result: low growth with massive inflation, higher gold prices, a
massive bear market for US Treasuries, and new lows in the US stock market.
This may be early days, but this administration is clearly too shortsighted
to cope with the impending problems of the US economy. It may sacrifice the
global economy in its bid for re-election in 2004.

Good Health, Good Fortune, and Good Trading

Ron Jaenisch

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To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/21/2003 11:13:07 AM
From: Skywatcher  Respond to of 48461
 
latimes.com
Bush crashing in the polls
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To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/21/2003 11:17:34 AM
From: Skywatcher  Respond to of 48461
 
Here's the SCARY FUTURE coming our way...the Constitution is IN DANGER!
Britain OKs Jeopardy Law Reform
From Associated Press

LONDON — The British Parliament on Thursday approved legislation to
overturn "double jeopardy" protection for offenses such as murder, rape and
armed robbery.

The centuries-old legal rule prevents suspects from being tried twice for a
crime, and it is enshrined in the legal codes of many of Britain's former
colonies, including the United States.

Under the Criminal
Justice Bill, introduced by
Prime Minister Tony
Blair's government last
year, a person acquitted
of certain serious
offenses, including rape
and murder, would face a
second trial if compelling
new details, such as
DNA evidence, come to
light.

The legislation, hailed by the government as the
biggest reform of Britain's criminal justice system in
a generation, now needs only royal assent, which
is virtually automatic, before it becomes law.

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To: Bucky Katt who wrote (15741)11/22/2003 2:04:48 PM
From: Gale Dilts  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 48461
 
This use to be one of my favorite threads to visit.
Lots of great views from lots of very wise people, you
are ruining it with all your political "Stuff"
Goodbye from a long time lurker that goes all the way
back when Randy was on all the time.
This thread is no fun anymore.
Bye.