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To: Bilow who wrote (120657)	11/29/2003 12:25:57 PM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

" There has been talk for years about Canada, or parts of Canada, joining up with the US, "........ Those " talks " go almost silent every time Americans (s)elect a Republican Administration,and I have no doubt that this particular administration has galvanized the VAST majority of Canadians from ever contemplating, let alone talking about, any such adventure. I have a funny feeling the Mexicanos are on about the same line of thinking today. RE: Taiwan - China ...... I think we might just as well depend on fortune cookies to tell what may happen there.The Island continues to drift further away from the mainland on political fronts,but China continues to display market economy thinking and prosperity under their new found influence in the Global economy. Regards, KC

To: Bilow who wrote (120657)	11/29/2003 6:40:57 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There has been talk for years about Canada, or parts of Canada, joining up with the US, but no one talks about Mexico doing the same. As the polarization of this country continues to get sharper, I wouldn't be surprised if there would be talk of breaking up the US into smaller parts. It seems pretty obvious to me that large numbers of people in this country don't agree at all about the fundamental purposes of government. I wonder what those people who see "nothing wrong" with an independent Kurdistan carved out of Iraq and perhaps parts of Turkey, Syria and Iran would think about chunks of the US voting to separate, so that they could have the state of their own making.

To: Bilow who wrote (120657)	11/29/2003 8:57:30 PM
From: h0db	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Thanks, Carl. You seem to have a long-term perspective. I was thinking something more along the lines of the next five years or so. Taiwan seems on a course to assert it's de jure independence (it has had de facto independence for 50 years or so). There also seems to be a part of the US Govt. (DoD and other dens of Neocons) that would like to slow or prevent China's rise as a great power in East Asia--sort of a happy marriage of US muscular moralists and real-politik advocates who believe that China's rise can only come at the expense of the United States. I find it curious that the US is the security guarantor of only two regions of the planet: the Western Hemisphere and East Asia (I few the current aggressive US role in the Middle/Near-east as an aberration that will soon end). The Western Hemisphere would seem to be our natural hegemonic sphere, while the US dominance of East Asia now seems a leftover of the destruction of China during the Qing Dynasty, collapse of the British Empire and the defeat of Japan in WWII. In other words, I think that we are on borrowed time in East Asia. BTW, from talking to some geologist friends, it seems that Taiwan is moving toward the Asian mainland, so reunification is indeed inevitable. It will only take a few million years.