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To: tejek who wrote (178470)	11/29/2003 8:07:34 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583880

Ted, I don't think anyone can put a number on the Iraqi support for the US occupation. All polls are suspect in a country with a high level of fear of retribution. And I think it's beside the point. This isn't an election, it's an occupation. The day (s) of tearing down statues is gone, the opposite sentiment seems to have settled in. (BTW, I read a quote somewhere, I wish I could remember the source, but it went something like "When you are tearing down the statues, remember to save the base, it is sure to come in handy in the near future" <I think it was a Russian proverb>). There is a VERY significant domestic resistance to our occupation of Iraq. Iraq is obviously no longer (it never was) a threat to the US. From a very conservative perspective, we should get the hell out and let them get on with their lives in the best way they can, without our intervention. That's what conservatives believe, domestic and international. The self-reliance thing. Cut and run. It's a really minority opinion, but it's what I think we should do. The Republicans will say "we have to finish the job", the Democrats will say "we created this mess, we have to fix it". Frankly, I think it's best we let the Iraqi's create the new Iraq. Anything that has the US stamp of approval isn't going to survive the test of time anyway. This is the ME, not Ohio. Iraq is the biggest political mistake in my lifetime. Worse than Vietnam, and I didn't think that was possible. John

To: tejek who wrote (178470)	11/29/2003 8:39:40 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583880

The problem is is that occupation is all the Iraqis know. The term "occupation" suggests the Iraqi people don't WANT us there; this, of course, couldn't be further from the truth -- the vast majority of Iraqi people say (a) they want us there and (b) they want us to stay until a secure transition to their new government can be made. It simply kills you guys to see the major progress that is taking place in Iraq. Even the sleezeball Hillary came back saying the progress was impressive.