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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (42207)	11/30/2003 2:51:22 AM
From: EL KABONG!!!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

* OFF TOPIC * azcentral.com GOP or Dem? Depends on if you go to church Steven Thomma Knight Ridder Newspapers Nov. 30, 2003 12:00 AM DES MOINES, Iowa - Want to know how Americans will vote next Election Day? Watch what they do the weekend before. If they attend religious services regularly, they probably will vote Republican by a 2-1 ratio. If they never go, they likely will vote Democratic 2-1. This relatively new fault line in American life is a major reason that the country is politically polarized. And the division over religion and politics is likely to continue in 2004. A new poll by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center for the People and the Press indicates that the gap remains: Voters who frequently attend religious services tilt 63-37 percent to George W. Bush and those who never attend lean 62-38 percent toward Democrats. "We now have the widest gap we have ever had between Republicans and Democrats," said Andy Kohut, survey director. "It's the most powerful predictor of party ID and partisan voting intention," said Thomas Mann, a political scholar at the Brookings Institution, a center-left Washington think tank. "And in a society that values religion as much as (this one), . . . that's significant." Voters weren't split by the frequency of their visits to religious services until recently. The gap started growing in the 1990s and became clear in the 2000 election. Voters who attended religious services more than once a week went for Bush by a ratio of nearly 2-1. Those who never went to services went for Democrat Al Gore by the same margin. The Pew poll of 2,528 people was taken July 14-Aug. 5 and had an error margin of 2 percentage points. KJC

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (42207)	11/30/2003 4:15:40 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Power vs LeMay was a dispute for money for the USAF (Powers) of to buy more submarines (LeMay). It's been always like that: fight for more money for 'defense'.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (42207)	11/30/2003 3:34:25 PM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Ray - Re: Rumsfield - I stand corrected - or rather , hide under the bed with a flashlight and cower corrected. Did not know about Perle & Feith dual citizenship and active participation on policy for both countries. Operation Northwoods is a hoot. You can almost see them thinking as they write this -"we can't shoot down a bunch of our own people" then proposing the elaborate switches, which could be replaced operationally by just shooting down the plane...