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To: marcos who wrote (54)	12/6/2003 9:59:17 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 190

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To: marcos who wrote (54)	12/6/2003 10:26:49 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 190

One result of the creation of Israel and ensuing war was that about 600,000 Arabs from Palestine (they weren't "Palestinians" yet; at the time the word still referred to the Zionists) became refugees. Another result was that about 800,000 Jews from the Arab lands became refugees between 1948 and 1952. Unlike the Arabs, the Israelis were not foresighted enough to put the Jewish refugees and permanent refugee camps and peddle their victimhood (besides, after Auschwitz, they knew no one would care); they resettled them instead. And they had to put them somewhere. Now, if the Arab countries had recognized Israel and agreed to a peace, they could have rightly insisted that the conflict being over, the refugees should return, or worked out a compensation scheme for the exchange of populations. This was in fact the deal that the British brokered in 1949. But the Arabs took the truce and reneged on the peace part. Their attitude was, "we'll get you next time" - an attitude that naturally made it rather difficult for Israel to take in hundreds of thousands of Arab refugees with who knows how many guerillas smuggled among them, at a time when they had 300,000 Holocaust survivors and a flood of refugees streaming in from the Arab lands on their hands. The Israelis agonized about the issue a good bit but finally decided that it would be suicidal to take back Arab refugees, especially without a peace. Have you ever heard this part of the story? or do you get all your "history" from electronicintifada.com? As for the Zionists wanting Arabs to stay, most did, some did not. The case of Haifa is often cited - a city with the best reputation, then and now, for Arabs and Jews living together peacefully. After the partition vote in November 1947, everyone knew that war was coming. The Arab High Committee assured the Arabs that its tanks would make short work of the Zionists, and hinted darkly that any Arab community found sitting next to the Jews might be considered renegades. The 60,000 strong Arab community of Haifa decided to evacuate. They borrowed trucks from the British police and began to evacuate in an orderly fashion. Golda Meir and David Ben Gurion stood on the beach and implored them not go, said they had nothing to fear from the Haganah. The community leaders answered, "We know we have nothing to fear but we have to go. We'll be back in two weeks" - meaning, after Zionist independence had been crushed. The exodus from Haifa accounts for 10% of the Arab refugees from Palestine.