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To: MSI who wrote (19204)12/9/2003 1:53:03 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794485
 
I do that now w. a corp., which pays the catastrophic policy, and covers the gap

I could wax on about the ways to sell it. The interesting thing will be how the Medical profession reacts to it. You should get big discounts for cash vs billing someones Ins. The cash price most Doctors set is way above the billing price for Ins cos. Same with the Hospitals.



To: MSI who wrote (19204)12/9/2003 2:08:52 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794485
 
Interesting. Clinton was clueless.

December 9, 2003
Gore to Endorse Dean, Remaking Democratic Race
By ADAM NAGOURNEY and JODI WILGOREN - New York Times

WASHINGTON, Dec. 8 — Al Gore has decided to endorse Howard Dean for president, aides to the men said Monday, a move that rocked the Democratic presidential field and hastened Dr. Dean's evolution from a long-shot maverick to a leading candidate of the Democratic establishment.

Mr. Gore will announce his endorsement of Dr. Dean on Tuesday at events in Harlem and in Iowa, Democrats close to both men said.

The decision by Mr. Gore, the former vice president who opened the floodgates to this crowded Democratic nomination contest by declaring last December that he would not run again, stunned Democrats and emboldened the Dean campaign, which chartered three jets to carry Dr. Dean, Mr. Gore and dozens of reporters to Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

"This is huge," said Donna Brazile, who was Mr. Gore's campaign manager in 2000. "It gives Dean what Dean has been missing most: stature. Gore is a major-league insider, somebody with enormous credibility that Democrats respect, who can rally the grass roots and who's been speaking very strongly in the last few months about the direction he wants to take the country."

Gerald McEntee, the president of the municipal workers union, which endorsed Dr. Dean last month, said: "I think this may be the beginning of the end for the other candidates."

Mr. Gore's decision put him in the odd position of supporting an insurgent candidate who has built his campaign attacking the centrist Democratic positions that the former Vice President has espoused for two decades.

It also came as a devastating surprise to Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, who was Mr. Gore's running mate in the disputed 2000 election. Mr. Lieberman delayed entering the 2004 race until he was sure Mr. Gore would not run, a show of courtesy to Mr. Gore that Democrats later blamed for Mr. Lieberman's slow start in the race.

Mr. Lieberman vowed to remain in the race, saying he was "more determined than ever to continue to fight for what's right for my party and my country."

Mr. Lieberman's spokesman, Jano Cabrera, said Mr. Lieberman had learned of the decision after reporters called for comment. Asked if Mr. Gore had called his old friend to inform him, Mr. Cabrera responded: "No. That's my only response."

Mr. Gore's endorsement was also a setback for Representative Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri and seemed likely to complicate his efforts to defeat Dr. Dean in Iowa, a state where Mr. Gore is popular.

It was also a rebuke to Gen. Wesley K. Clark, who has surrounded himself with former advisers to Mr. Gore and to former President Bill Clinton in an effort to appear as the candidate with the implicit support of the last White House.

The support of Mr. Gore should go a long way in addressing one of the questions that has clouded Dr. Dean's candidacy: Is he too far out of the mainstream to be taken seriously in presidential politics?

At a late-night fund-raiser at the Roseland Ballroom in midtown Manhattan, the crowd interrupted Dr. Dean's speech with chants of "Al Gore, Al Gore," but the candidate just shrugged and said, "I cannot confirm or deny."

Mr. Gore did not respond to a request for comment on Monday.

But his associates noted that Mr. Gore had long said he wanted to make an endorsement that would have an impact on the race and said he had been unimpressed with what one described as Mr. Lieberman's tepid campaign.

By contrast, they said, he had been enthralled by what he saw as the huge surge of interest in Dr. Dean's campaign and had taken notice of the turnout for a speech Mr. Gore gave in Washington last month on civil liberties. The speech was sponsored by MoveOn.org, a progressive Internet group that provided a major lift to Dr. Dean's campaign.

"There's something that Gore finds very appealing about Dean energizing the Democratic base," one of his associates said on Monday. "I would say it's wistful, but when Gore gave a speech to MoveOn, he got 3,000 people there. There were times in the race when we couldn't get 3,000 people to turn up, and he was the nominee. He sees an energy and vitality here."

The aide said Mr. Gore also was struck by Dr. Dean's position as an opponent of the war in Iraq and was distressed that his former running mate, whom he had warmly described in 2000 as the most qualified person he knew to be vice president, had become such a strong supporter of the war.

In 2000, Dr. Dean, then the governor of Vermont, considered running for president and met with Mr. Gore, who dissuaded him in what one former Gore aide described as "awkward conversation." At the time, the aide said, Dr. Dean told Mr. Gore that "he's going to challenge him for the presidency."

"Obviously, between then and now, things have changed," the aide said.

Dr. Dean endorsed Mr. Gore in January 2000, a few weeks before the New Hampshire primary. At the time, there were discussions about Dr. Dean's being named secretary of health and human services, the aide said.

But after Mr. Gore decided not to run, Dr. Dean began what an adviser described as a "long courtship" of the former vice president.

And aides to Dr. Dean said they regularly spoke to senior advisers to Mr. Gore and his wife, Tipper, as part of the effort to enlist one of the most sought-after endorsements.

Mr. Gore has in recent weeks told friends that Dr. Dean's policy positions were closest to his own.

The decision caught most Democrats flat-footed. Mr. Clinton, appearing in San Francisco on Monday with the Democratic candidate for mayor, Gavin Newsom, said he had been unaware of Mr. Gore's decision and did not intend to issue an endorsement at this point. "I feel obligated to all of them," Mr. Clinton said of the Democratic candidates. "I don't intend to take a position until the voters decide who the nominee is."

The office of Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts sent a response by e-mail, with a staff member's notation inadvertently left on the top: "Here are some options: I don't think Kerry should comment unless asked at a press event."

In the statement itself, Mr. Kerry said, "This election will be decided by voters, across the country, beginning with voters in Iowa."

Aides to Mr. Gephardt seemed equally surprised, noting that Mr. Gephardt had put aside his own bid for the presidency in 2000 to endorse Mr. Gore.

Steve Murphy, Mr. Gephardt's campaign manager, said: "Al Gore and Dick Gephardt fought side by side to pass the Clinton economic plan, to defend against the Republican efforts to cut Medicare, to pass the assault weapons ban and to save affirmative action. Howard Dean was on the other side of every one of those fights."

Aides to other candidates noted that in the 1980's Mr. Gore had been part of the effort to move his party to the center, particularly on military issues, and suggested an incongruence in the military views of Mr. Gore and Dr. Dean.

Some said this was the latest manifestation of the struggle for influence over the Democratic Party between Mr. Gore and Mr. Clinton, who has had warm things to say about General Clark.

One person close to General Clark suggested that Mr. Gore was supporting Dr. Dean in the calculation that Dr. Dean would lose to Mr. Bush in November and that Mr. Gore would then enjoy the good will of Dean supporters "when he runs against Hillary Clinton in 2008."

General Clark, in an appearance on Monday evening on the MSNBC news program "Hardball," said he was unconcerned with Mr. Gore's decision. "I don't pay attention to endorsements, unless they are for me," he said.
nytimes.com



To: MSI who wrote (19204)12/9/2003 3:18:26 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 794485
 
Here ya go, MSI. This is normal politics. It's what they get elected to do. But you can say, "I knew it, I knew it!"
The Wall Street Journal, which reported earlier on Karl Rove’s meetings with federal agency officials, has Vice President Cheney calling an Interior Department lawyer to urge the department to act on allowing “more water to be diverted from” Oregon’s Klamath River for farmers, because a “prominent Oregon Republican” had lobbied him for it. “The water eventually got released. But Mr. Cheney’s role in the seemingly small-time drama never came to light, underscoring the way he prefers to do business: far behind the scenes.”
msnbc.com



To: MSI who wrote (19204)12/10/2003 12:31:45 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794485
 
You can jump up and down on "Cheney and Halliburton" on this one, MSI. But it's hard to keep employees driving trucks when they are getting shot at. I wish Waxman would go back to his day job of cleaning up around that TV Buick. :>)

December 10, 2003
High Payments to Halliburton for Fuel in Iraq
By DON VAN NATTA Jr.

he United States government is paying the Halliburton Company an average of $2.64 a gallon to import gasoline and other fuel to Iraq from Kuwait, more than twice what others are paying to truck in Kuwaiti fuel, government documents show.

Halliburton, which has the exclusive United States contract to import fuel into Iraq, subcontracts the work to a Kuwaiti firm, government officials said. But Halliburton gets 26 cents a gallon for its overhead and fee, according to documents from the Army Corps of Engineers.

The cost of the imported fuel first came to public attention in October when two senior Democrats in Congress criticized Halliburton, the huge Houston-based oil-field services company, for "inflating gasoline prices at a great cost to American taxpayers." At the time, it was estimated that Halliburton was charging the United States government and Iraq's oil-for-food program an average of about $1.60 a gallon for fuel available for 71 cents wholesale.

But a breakdown of fuel costs, contained in Army Corps documents recently provided to Democratic Congressional investigators and shared with The New York Times, shows that Halliburton is charging $2.64 for a gallon of fuel it imports from Kuwait and $1.24 per gallon for fuel from Turkey. The fuel is sold in Iraq for 5 cents to 15 cents a gallon.

The Iraqi state oil company and the Pentagon's Defense Energy Support Center import fuel from Kuwait for less than half of Halliburton's price, the records show.

A spokeswoman for Halliburton, Wendy Hall, defended the company's pricing. "It is expensive to purchase, ship, and deliver fuel into a wartime situation, especially when you are limited by short-duration contracting," she said. She said the company's Kellogg Brown & Root unit, which administers the contract, must work in a "hazardous" and "hostile environment," and that its profit on the contract is small.

She said Halliburton's subcontractor had had more than 20 trucks damaged or stolen, nine drivers injured and one driver killed when making fuel runs into Iraq.

Ms. Hall said the contract was also expensive because it was hard to find a company with the trucks necessary to move the fuel, and because Halliburton is only able to negotiate a 30-day contract for fuel. "It is not as simple as dropping by a service station for a fill-up," she said.

A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers, Bob Faletti, also defended the price of imported fuel.

"Everyone is talking about high costs, but no one is talking about the dangers, or the number of fuel trucks that have been blown up," Mr. Faletti said. "That's the reason it is so expensive." He said recent government audits had found no improprieties in the Halliburton contract.

Gasoline imports are one of the largest costs of Iraqi reconstruction efforts so far. Although Iraq sits on the third-largest oil reserves in the world, production has been hampered by pipeline sabotage, power failures and an antiquated infrastructure that was hurt by 11 years of United Nations sanctions.

Nearly $500 million has already been spent to bring gas, benzene and other fuels into Iraq, according to the corps. And as part of the $87 billion package for Iraq and Afghanistan that President Bush signed last month, $18.6 billion will be spent on reconstruction projects, including $690 million for gasoline and other fuel imports in 2004.

From May to late October, Halliburton imported about 61 million gallons of fuel from Kuwait and about 179 million from Turkey, at a total cost of more than $383 million.

A company's profits on the transport and sale of gasoline are usually razor-thin, with companies losing contracts if they overbid by half a penny a gallon. Independent experts who reviewed Halliburton's percentage of its gas importation contract said the company's 26-cent charge per gallon of gas from Kuwait appeared to be extremely high.

"I have never seen anything like this in my life," said Phil Verleger, a California oil economist and the president of the consulting firm PK Verleger LLC. "That's a monopoly premium — that's the only term to describe it. Every logistical firm or oil subsidiary in the United States and Europe would salivate to have that sort of contract."

In March, Halliburton was awarded a no-competition contract to repair Iraq's oil industry, and it has already received more than $1.4 billion in work. That award has been the focus of Congressional scrutiny in part because Vice President Dick Cheney is Halliburton's former chief executive officer. As part of its contract, Halliburton began importing fuel in the spring when gasoline was in short supply in large Iraqi cities.

The government's accounting shows that Halliburton paid its Kuwait subcontractor $1.17 a gallon, when it was selling for 71 cents a gallon wholesale in the Middle East.

In addition, Halliburton is paying $1.21 a gallon to transport the fuel an estimated 400 miles from Kuwait to Iraq, the documents show. It is paying 22 cents a gallon to transport gas into Iraq from Turkey.

The 26 cents a gallon it keeps includes a 2-cent fee and 24 cents for "mark-up costs," the documents show. The mark-up portion is intended to cover the overhead for administering the contract.

Ms. Hall of Halliburton said it was "misleading" for the corps to call it a mark-up. "This simply means overhead costs, which includes the general and administrative costs like light bulbs, paper and employees," she said. "These costs are specifically allowable under the contract with the Corps of Engineers, are defined by detailed regulations, and are scrutinized and approved by U.S. government auditors."

In recent weeks, the costs of importing fuel from Kuwait have risen. Figures provided recently to Congressional investigators by the corps show that Halliburton was charging as much as $3.06 per gallon for fuel from Kuwait in late November.

If the corps concludes that Halliburton has successfully administered the gas contract, it could be paid an additional 5 percent of the total value of the gas it imported. That could mean an additional 14 cents a gallon for Halliburton, Congressional investigators and independent petroleum experts said.

Halliburton's Kuwait subcontractor was hired in May. Halliburton and the Army Corps of Engineers refused to identify the company, citing security reasons. Aides to Representative Henry A. Waxman, the California Democrat who has been a critic of the fuel contract, said government officials had identified it as the Altanmia Commercial Marketing Company. Several independent petroleum experts in the Middle East and the United States said they had not heard of Altanmia.

Copies of the Army Corps documents were given to Mr. Waxman's office, which provided them to The Times.

Iraqi's state oil company, SOMO, pays 96 cents a gallon to bring in gas, which includes the cost of gasoline and transportation costs, the aides to Mr. Waxman said. The gasoline transported by SOMO — and by Halliburton's subcontractor — are delivered to the same depots in Iraq and often use the same military escorts.

The Pentagon's Defense Energy Support Center pays $1.08 to $1.19 per gallon for the gas it imports from Kuwait, Congressional aides said. That includes the price of the gas and its transportation costs.

The money for Halliburton's gas contract has come principally from the United Nations oil-for-food program, though some of the costs have been borne by American taxpayers. In the appropriations bill signed by Mr. Bush last month, taxpayers will subsidize all gas importation costs beginning early next year.

In an interview on Tuesday, Mr. Waxman responded to the latest information on to costs of the Halliburton contract. "It's inexcusable that Americans are being charged absurdly high prices to buy gasoline for Iraqis and outrageous that the White House is letting it happen," he said.

nytimes.com