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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Peter O'Brien who wrote (508956)12/13/2003 6:05:16 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
It was my error to allow you to use the typical debate "tactic" of changing direction or focussing on some irrelevant part of the issue in order to detract from the larger point. This is what you tried to to by bringing up FDR. There are a whole host of issues that make FDR a worthless comparison to Bush, not the least of which is the fact that he served so long. But at any rate this is all irrelevant, because even taking the extreme circumstances of an FDR presidency into account, he still didn't spend as much as Bush in such a small amount of time.

My dismissal of your argument with a "whatever" was not to say that I agree that FDR was more fiscally irresponsible than Bush. I do not think that, and I don't think anybody else thinks it either. You rarely hear FDRs term mentioned as one of reckless spending. I know the right wing would LIKE to portray him that way as a means to divert attention away from Bush, but it won't work. We are discussing Bush, Bush's spending and where we are as a nation thanks to BUSH.

This "discussion" reminds me of other right wing threads, where they dispute obvious, overreported FACTS such as job loss under Bush, and try to argue about the reality. I am not interested in the basic argument as to whether Bush is a fiscal disaster. He is that. Period.



To: Peter O'Brien who wrote (508956)12/13/2003 6:06:32 PM
From: Steve Dietrich  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
Slightly off topic, but i'd make the point that no one raised taxes more than Roosevelt and no one presided over a larger jump in federal revenue than Roosevelt and no one presided over stronger economic growth than Roosevelt.

Between 1940 and 1945 our economy doubled in size with the highest taxes (both in rates and as a percent of GDP) in our history.

Which just goes to show, i'd argue, how bogus the supply side argument is.

Steve Dietrich